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- Bradley Coots
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- Say I have a friend that has hosting at another company than I do. Say it doesn't support the correct version of apache, php, or mysql that is needed for joomla. Is there anyway that you can upload the files to his ftp but use the database on my account at godaddy for php, sql, and apache? Just something I've thought about that I really don't know the answer to.
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- Matthew
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While accessing databases (and other server resources) remotely is technically possible, it is not, IMHO, something that you want to consider in this case.
I would strongly suggest that your friend get new hosting! Although bargain basement hosting has its own problems, there are plenty of hosting solutions for less than 10 bucks a month that meet all of Joomla's requirements.
That having been said, however, there are a couple of other options, if, for some reason, your friend absolutely must keep his current hosting.
1. If the site is essentially static (like a "this is our company" site), then you could always create it using Joomla! on local development server, and then do an HTML copy of it, which you could upload to your friends existing server. No PHP, no database, no compatibility issues. The only problem, of course, is that it would be a purely static site.
2. Contact the hosting provider, and ask them if they can upgrade your account, or move it to another server, that meets the requirements. - www.gofftech.com Web Design
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- Bradley Coots
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- Hey matthew and thanks for your reply. Is it simply accessing the database on my server instead of his a performance issue? Or is there alot of other probelms as well?
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- Matthew
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Bradley Coots wrote:
Hey matthew and thanks for your reply. Is it simply accessing the database on my server instead of his a performance issue? Or is there alot of other probelms as well?
For starters, your server's database is very likely to be locked down at the firewall level, preventing direct access (which would be easiest, since you could literally connect to it by changing the Joomla! config). Most responsible ISPs lock them down to prevent hackers from running brute force assaults directly on your DB, however, and that is a very wise practice.
Assuming you could get around the DB issues, however, you indicated that your friend's version of PHP was also wrong (or that it was not configured properly), and that is a much harder thing to get around. You could always run the site on your server, and try to access it as a Web service from your friend's server, but that code would be complex, you would be more than doubling your bandwidth requirements, and you would be introducing extra latency into the system.
Perhaps if I knew more about why you were trying to accomplish this I could offer more insight, but with literally hundreds of budget minded hosting options that are ready to run Joomla! out of the box, I am having trouble imagining why someone would need to try to do this (unless it is for an intranet app, or something like that maybe. . .) - www.gofftech.com Web Design
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- Joe K
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literally hundreds of budget minded hosting options that are ready to run Joomla! out of the box
I am with Mathew on this one, for $5 or even less a month he could erase all these issues. Also, lets say in the future you decide to either not have a site or change hosts, what will your friend do then?
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- Bradley Coots
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His hosting company is Hiwaay which they run the basic mysql 3.23 and php 4.3 I think. I don't see anything where they run apache which Joomla requires right? Here is their hosting product list :
www.hiwaay.net/business/hosting.html
The reason he don't want to swap is he has certain ties to this company. He does some work for them blah blah.
I use godaddy and I've never had one single issue with them. They've always gave me great success.
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- Joe K
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The reason he don't want to swap is he has certain ties to this company
Bradly, unless his ties are "free hosting" he is paying too much and would be better served searching for a new host. I pay less for my VPS then they get for their middle of the road plan.
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- Matthew
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Host the site somewhere else, and create a frameset on the current hosting to point to it. Problem solved.
Seriously, though, Joomla! is one of the hottest platforms going, and for anyone to be in the PHP MySQL space and not be ready for it seems like a tragedy. If he works for them, maybe he can preach the gospel to them enlighten them as to the error of their ways. - www.gofftech.com Web Design
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- Bradley Coots
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- So you guys are saying by what you see there that he won't be able to host his site on that hosting? We've discussed it several times and he isn't changing.
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- Matthew
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Actually, 1.0.X might run on that configuration. . . I don't know what sort of control panel they offer, but if it supports archive functions, or they have shell access, then it would be super easy to upload the Joomla! tar file, uncompress it, and just install. Easiest way to see if it will run.
The stats page might be out of date as well, this happens on a lot of smaller ISPs.
If it does not install, and your friend won't move, then the options become decidedly limited with regards to Joomla! - www.gofftech.com Web Design
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