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    Help system is counter productive

    Posted 13 years 11 months ago
    • I would be willing to pay for this admin template to have a little bit more customization. For me it’s no big deal but the help link at the top references the default Joomla Admin Template. Makes no sense to someone who has not worked in the Joomla! admin before when they are working in one template but the tutorials have absolutely nothing in common with what they are looking at.

      For anyone else who finds this worthless from a support standpoint open the following file:

      administrator/templates/rt_missioncontrol_j15/index.php

      and delete:

      <?php $mctrl->displayHelpButton(); ?>

      from line 55.

      Other than that my hat is off to the RT team for making the first admin template that does not SUCK!
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    Re: Help system is counter productive

    Posted 13 years 10 months ago
    • The help system inside of joomla points to help.joomla.org so is of course tailored specifically for khepri/bluestork admin templates. Of course this is not exactly going to match MC, but frankly the admin template doesn't change the underlying fundamental workings of Joomla, so it's better than nothing.

      I guess it could be a toggle option to hide/show this feature but it's really simple to remove yourself as you've pointed out.
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    Re: Help system is counter productive

    Posted 13 years 10 months ago
    • Thanks Andy and yes it is easy to remove but I know there are some that use your awesome templates that it would not be viewed like that. By the same token the people that are using my sites are even less informed (for the lack of a better word). My point here is that if the picture does not match what they are looking at then they are getting confused.

      I agree it is better than nothing but I am trying to decide if this is a design I would like to use (personally I love it!) and if so I will do some image swapping and setup my own local tutorials. I do agree it would be a good idea to add a way to turn it off, if this template is getting enough use to be warranted.
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    Re: Help system is counter productive

    Posted 13 years 8 months ago
    • this doesnt work for me any ideas on how to actually get rid of the help menu tab?
  • Re: Help system is counter productive

    Posted 13 years 8 months ago
    • There are two help entry points. The above method removes the help button that appears by the title for each page.

      the help tab in the administration menu can be switched off in the Admin menu module. This removes it from the hathor and bluestork default admin templates but the setting is ignored by this mission control template so there is no 'obvious' way to remove the help. This is a bug in the mission control template - it should honour the administration module settings.
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      Paul Whipp
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  • Re: Help system is counter productive

    Posted 13 years 8 months ago
    • If anyone does need to work around the mission control bug regarding its failure to honour the parameter settings for the modules do the following:

      Change the $showhelp = true; line near the top of each of these files to be $showhelp = false;

      administrator/templates/rt_missioncontrol_j16/lib/menu/tmpl/default_disabled.php
      administrator/templates/rt_missioncontrol_j16/lib/menu/tmpl/default_enabled.php

      The same workaround can be applied to the shownew parameter setting if necessary.
    • Cheers,
      Paul Whipp
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