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Wordpress!! Aggghhh... Themes vs plugins vs extensions etc.

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    Wordpress!! Aggghhh... Themes vs plugins vs extensions etc.

    Posted 13 years 6 months ago
    • Hi guys
      i primarily work with joomla
      have done work with wordpress but not a massive feature rich site

      I am more used to joomla in such circrumstances and find it lends itself better to such projects

      however my prospective client is insisting on wordpress

      fair enough...

      So i am looking into it
      its a community city website

      and will primarily have BuddyPress (wordpresses answer to joomla's jomsocial - social network) as the main area to it

      Off that will be areas such as:

      WP-Answers (yahoo answers clone....for community questions)
      DirectoryPress or GeoPlaces (biz directory) and so on

      My problem is this.... in joomla those are referred to as components...so i'd go ahead, use a rockettheme template for example, and any components i install area shown in main content area of a page.
      Fine
      makes sense

      I've been looking at websites for DirectoryPress and WP-Answers and many other extenions
      They talk about getting their theme and installing and you're ready to go

      Does that mean i wouldnt be able to use my rockettheme WP template

      I want to have a site with a RT template for example, but with pages that have directorypress, others that have wp-answers and other such plugins...but all surrounded by the main RT theme

      Is that possible...

      Or will installing such a component mean i have to use their theme and no nice theme from RT?


      Thanks guys

      Would really appreciate an answer ASAP due to a deadline on a proposal submission!
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    Re: Wordpress!! Aggghhh... Themes vs plugins vs extensions etc.

    Posted 13 years 6 months ago
    • Hi, I've worked with both. In Wordpress everything is a plugin, they aren't really separated into groups like components, modules, ECT. Widget is WP for Module, but it's usually a plugin that creates the Widgets.

      You would have to try and set up a Gantry site to see if it works with these plugins. Tachyon has buddypress support built in, but it may not have been tested with these other 3rd party plug ins, we can't test them all due to how many there are. Wordpress is definitely a bit more finicky than Joomla when it comes to mixing third party plugins. I would recommend setting up a test server to see if there are issues.
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    Re: Wordpress!! Aggghhh... Themes vs plugins vs extensions etc.

    Posted 13 years 6 months ago
    • Thanks for the reply cliff much appreciate the advice into the WP community

      However not sure if I explained myself correctly.

      If for example you look at this site - www.directorypress.com

      This appears to be what, in Joomla would be referred to as a component
      Adding additional major functionality into the CMS, in this case, a business directory site.

      However, on the site they refer to everything as their "THEME"

      I contacted them asking if i could use this with a different theme eg RT theme - but use their functionality, eg like only the plugin

      Their reply was that they dont sell plugins, ONLY themes

      But how can this be ? From my limited experience of WP it doesnt appear that directorypress is using out of the box WP tech - but rather extended it (as would a joomla component....if i wanted a biz directory setup in a joomla site, i'd have to find a component)

      Surely directory press is a plugin? But they say its a theme ? In which case i'd not be able to use an RT template?

      Their advice to me was they said many who use it set it up as such
      www.domain.com - the main wp site with main theme
      directory.domain.com - a second wp area - this time the directory press theme

      But that would be useless to me - i'd want a WP install, with a beautiful RT theme surrounding the whole website - but have the directory thing in the content area of the RT template.

      Did i explain myself better this time? Sorry for the long post - don't know how to explain it shorter....

      DirectoryPress is only an example
      I also found this the case with
      Geo Places templatic.com/app-themes/geo-places-city...tory-wordpress-theme

      (from the geoplaces site they say this...
      Out of the box – Auto Install Gone are the days when you had to setup every section of the site step by step in WordPress. With this theme, you simply activate the theme and voila....)

      Which leads me to believe its a theme...not a plugin?

      Am so confused!

      Starting to look into the joomla extension that lets wordpress become part of joomla - would solve this nightmare !
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    Re: Wordpress!! Aggghhh... Themes vs plugins vs extensions etc.

    Posted 13 years 6 months ago
    • I got you. Many things in wordpress can be added to a theme. Basically a theme can override and add functionality much like a plugin, widgets and plugins can be put directly into theme files. Before we switched to Gantry, all the plugins like RokStories, RokTabs ECT, were built directly into the theme. Now they all live in the plugin folder, which I think is easier to deal with as we can update the plugins separate of the theme in question. Different manufacturers do it different ways, it just depends on what you prefer to work with.
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