I made something cool today Gantry, K2 and an RT Template
Posted 10 years 10 months ago
Hey everyone,
I made this template redo for a client. I used the template, Gantry, K2 and a little Jquery.
I have Asked Andy if he would consider a fork for Gantry that is complete bare bones that would be based on html5boilerplate type functionality with Jquery, Less and or Sass installed.
Dev's are using this on almost every design house interview I have been on. What do you guys think - would you be interested in a bare bones template so that you can create your own design works but still use the gantry framework?
Also, take a guess which template this was?
Here is the site it is on now... it is not done yet.
http://curtisj.trafficflo.net/
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Re: I made something cool today Gantry, K2 and an RT Template
Posted 10 years 9 months ago
Since there is people answering the poll question as "what is an HTML5 Boilerplate" I will explain what my idea is and what an HTML5 boilerplate is.
Say you want to build a website... CMS solutions are great because they can keep your website and workflow in order. This is a limited expanse of an explanation but lets start here. Joomla Drupal WordPress are your major players. People think that CMS means you can give your website to a client and they can make updates without your helping... Bullshit... CMS systems are for you the developer making your life easy. Tell a regular person to go into Joomla and do XYZ and they will look at you cross-eyed.
What Joomla does is provide the basis of a CMS system. Gantry is a framework that sits within Joomla providing set functionality and a grid system. Gantry utilizes MooTools and .Less Frameworks. So if you would build your content in Joomla then you would change link colors, grid sizes, fonts, module positions, cache settings, backgrounds, and various other settings that Gantry provides.
These two things together are great.
Now, for templates. Now don't get me wrong I love templates... But after hacking the daylights out of them to look how I want them to look it can be a little cumbersome. Throw in bootstrap and this situation gets even worse. Yes bootstrap is good for somethings and pure hell IMHO for others. I am constantly having a fight with bootstrap.
I don't know if it is the template adjusted bootstrap version or if it is pure bootstrap... either way I am always overriding bootstrap.
Now for the bad about templates and the bootstrap combination. Templates put you in a box - you can only get what you envision getting out of it and how you can alter the hell out of it to get to where you're trying to go. Want to change something about the menu, you are going to override heaven. Break out the custom.css and get to work.
With all of these edits I started to think... There has to be a better way... A way to build things from the ground up and still use the best of Joomla, Gantry and bootstrap that has available. Even throw in some Sass / Less and Jquery.
This is where HTML5 Boilerplates and Bones / Skeleton framework templates come in. They do exactly what I am speaking about MINUS Gantry and Joomla CMS system. Now, Skeleton and Bones do have Wordpress integration.
HTML5 Boilerplate or Bones / Skeleton frameworks/templates are NOT frameworks but just Bares ass templates really with a Grid system - albeit with the Less or Sass and jquery added in.
It is up to you as the developer to come up with your own designs and systems to implement.
Don't get me wrong you can still add plugins and various other things to your site in order to make it modern and functional.
So what do I wish... I wish that Rockettheme could combine the both worlds together. Because Gantry is known out there in the wild but HTML5 boilerplates and template systems are a stronghold.
How would it work. I envision it like this. RT would create a html5 boilerplate template with SASS and Jquery installed. BARE BONES... Once a month, just like now, RT would create a template that could be used and or downloaded... But it would be in parts. And built from the ground up. Each section would get an entire HTML / CSS workup explanation...
For example say, the menu in paradigm is just awesome. Well instead of tutorials explaining how to add pictures in a module... It would explain how the menu was css styled and adjusted. If I the dev like the menu then I will style my menu as such... perhaps I like Hadrons menu... I can go to that explanation and style my menu like that instead.
You can do this with every part that you may want as a developer... The menu, the footer, the showcase from rocksprocket.... etc.
The Template can be used as inspiration or it can be used as the template you use for your site. Either way the barebones framework will be used to your liking... Add pieces you like from any month you like and get support for integration and or questions regarding it from RT.
Bare Bones on Steroids kinda.
How is this different than now? Now the template is what it is and their aint much deviating from that without major hacking and edits.
Hope this explanation and summary helped. I look forward to seeing what RTV3 is!!!