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About IE8 and not using the compatibility mode

  • About IE8 and not using the compatibility mode

    Posted 15 years 8 months ago
    • Hello,

      I hope it is the right place to start a general discussion about IE8 and its "native" display mode (ie, when "not" using the compatibility mode).
      Please note that it is not a request for support - because it looks like it concerns many many internet websites - but a thread to help me (and may be other) understand why this is happening.
      It concerns a bit Rocketheme because I have had some problems of display in the past (taht were solved by changing code) so I guess I am not the only one concerned or interested in knowing what is the thing about IE8.


      Ok, so
      - I would like to know if anyone knows why IE8 needs a "compatibility display" mode :
      - Is it because of a big change in the internet ? or a MS decision? or what ?

      I know each browser has its shortcomings and advantages, but IE being a major browser I would like to be prepared to what is coming.

      I have visited MS website about this compatibility mode, but still don't get it. What is going to change for webmasters in the future ? IS it better to use IE8 and make things compatible with it right now or is it just like another browser with its own way of interpreting codes ?

      Many questions I know.
      Thanks for answers and information.
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    Re: About IE8 and not using the compatibility mode

    Posted 15 years 8 months ago
    • Hello,

      When I'm about to blow my top over IE browsers, I come back to asking myself, "Why aren't you logging all this work and billing Microsoft for it?" Funny, that they build with rule no.1 - "Don't break the web", but I guess they are masters at BREAKING the web, so it goes, must be hard for them to plot how to make all of us suffer more, and generate more revenue to fix things that aren't broken in the first place. The number one rule for anything built for internet should be write TO the W3C standards and go from there about your business. IE browsers make this task most time consuming and embarrassing for some webmasters, especially when it's a client on the other end of the phone screaming IE broke our site!!!!!

      Maybe if more of us sent our IE time sheets and invoices to MS, they'd knock off this mumbo jumbo? It's been years of this bucket of bolts though, so probably not.

      When I am asked by clients why I only use FireFox for browsing I usually send them here:
      www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
      One, to express that it isn't a fly by night browser, and for two, to let them know I understand completely that it is imperative to keep sites working in all IE browsers.

      I pray, light candles, and poke a virtual voodoo doll with IE logo on it, in hopes of it one day being launched on the next shuttle off the planet.

      COMPATIBILITY MODE:
      I think the answer may lie in their changes to their own browser's class/model structures/specifications and for issues that present themselves where backwards compatibility. In a nutshell, you can't change the model without changing the stylesheets. My guess is their "compatibility mode" button does just that. It imposes the IE7 models or maybe even the DOCTYPE for IE6 as seen in IE7 fixes and reloads the page using those models. Lovely, we have to maintain an entire village of IE_fixes.css styles to wade our way through their swamp, isn't it.

      [rant over]
      grrrrrr
  • Re: About IE8 and not using the compatibility mode

    Posted 15 years 8 months ago
    • :cheesy: 8)

      (they are also masters in breaking their own products like... xp vs vista ;-) )

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