Why was the Free Software Movement started?
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- GollumX
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This movement was created in part because people were purchasing a copy of the software and then they would sell it but by making it free, so no one could profit because everyone knew the software to be free.-From http://www.bizfive.com/articles/misc/how-to-choose-open-source-cms/
Hard to blame newbies who think GNU/GPL and OSS mean free as in free lunch. Look at the sort of mis-information they are fed, and by a Joomla user no less.
If you are the owner of the site and happen to stumble on this thread, please visit any of the following:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software_movement
www.fsf.org/
And here is one you really must read:
www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-software-for-freedom.html
The key to it all is :
"free speech, not free beer" - Say no to Internet Explorer 6.
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- The Wingman
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- Any good business knows that free is the way to be successful...a few moochers and ignorant fools should never be acknowledged. I rode people up and down the Las Vegas Strip for free on a pedicab... Yet, every night I walked away with a few hundred or more. Got in shape, met cool people around the world (a lot I ended up partying with later that night) and made good money. I was a professional Strip Bum and had the time of my life...all for free. ;D
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- Aainaa-Ridtz A.R
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- create a useful plugin give it for free and then offer something like the carrot infront of the donkey, and you've got a marketing strat. It's all about marketing dahling!
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- Robby Timmermans
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Myself, I believe more in open source. People pay for the extension, ... but get the whole code. They may distribute it (even free: GNU/GPL) but only paying members have access to upgrades and support.
Another good way is: give away a few extensions for free, the rest is payable (see above).
Donation buttons don't generate a lot of money, therefore you got to have another business model. - I use simplix, does this mean that I'm a simple guy ?
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- GollumX
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Robby Timmermans wrote:
Myself, I believe more in open source. People pay for the extension, ... but get the whole code. They may distribute it (even free: GNU/GPL) but only paying members have access to upgrades and support.
That right there is what free software and the free software movement is all about. Many "open source" scripts/apps are proprietary... you can modify the code but you may not distribute it.
Open source software can be GNU/GPL(free software), or it can be proprietary, such as web apps like phpfox or joomla extensions like JomRes.
Most scripts/tools that are marketed as Open Source are not licensed under GNU/GPL... they are proprietary... you can see the source code, you can modify the code, but you may not distribute the source code or the app.
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- Robby Timmermans
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- You're right GollumX. Even I get confused sometimes between opensource, free software and then the different licensing schemes (GNU/GPL, creative comons, ...).
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- The Wingman
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But this works in the business world too. I have a name I trademark of a service (and name) I created - to get the word out - I let people do the service, make up variations of it, and share it with others, but the "Name" I own and is protected by a license (Trade Mark).
Meaning - when Karadansu!™ (which has gotten noticed extremely fast) gets a firmer grip and becomes a household name like Karaoke (the name will be in the dictionary one day)...and people want to use the name - like they use Karaoke on shirts, cd's, blah, blah, blah - I get a licensing fee for use of the name.
The guy who created karaoke - did not make it rich from Karaoke...the guy who licensed karaoke 20 years later (if you don't protect it - you lose it) - made millions off licensing karaoke and still does, leaving the creator of Karaoke SOL.
So, I don't see no difference between open source, free software and any other type of licensing (Copyright, Titles, Trademarks). In the end they are about results and protecting rights.
I only thought of this idea 2 months ago, but I understand the concept of having some kind of licensing. The importance of licensing is far greater than people realize...there was only "who was bigger, meaner, or had more friends that determined who owned what in the past" (e.g. land, gold etc.), so, licensing is man made, and varies from homes to intellectual properties, but they all protect us.
To say open source or free software is "well" not as valuable or important as the title on homes is well - moronic and ignorant.
One thing I noticed is in your last link - they stressed how people play down free software - well, that is a shame...open source, free software are just as valid and important as Copyright, Trademark, Land Titles etc...all are man made, but help bring order, promote growth and protect the individual.
Ignorance is everywhere GollumX LOL - when people stand there with their thumbs up their butts and ask me how I am going to make money of off Karadansu!™ - that is the same thing as people who stand there with their thumbs up their butts and think that open source or free software equals free beer. So, don't feel bad, people are stupid world wide over everything - hmmmm I guess that is why we have licensing to protect us. ;D - Last Edit: 17 years 3 months ago by .
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- Robby Timmermans
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Jamie Phillips wrote:
...One thing I noticed is in your last link - they stressed how people play down free software - well, that is a shame...That's the biggest reason why I will always use the term open source instead of free software. The term Open Source can be easily sold in the business world by explaining the advantages. If you say it's free software they will think it is not good or will expect to get it for free.
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- Robert D. Wagers
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My understanding is this---
Open Source, by definition, is just that; the source code is Open or "Uncompiled" and easily editable. This does not necessarily imply that it is FREE.
Free software does not, by definition, imply that it is open source. "Free" just implies no fee is charged for its use.
Open source can be free or fee-based.
Free software can be Open Sourced or Compiled.
Joomla happens to be both Open Source AND Free!
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Robby Timmermans wrote:
That's the biggest reason why I will always use the term open source instead of free software. The term Open Source can be easily sold in the business world by explaining the advantages. If you say it's free software they will think it is not good or will expect to get it for free.
Well, if it were me...and it was built off of "free software" licensing and I was presenting it to the business world. I would do one simple thing if they expected it for free -
Simple say "You're in business, right? So, you understand incorporating, trademarking and copyright licensing? Well, "free software" is a term for licensing of software, not free beer. I mean nobody gets to trade trade marks like trading cards do they? Are when they look at a copyright logo think hmmm that logo means I get to copy this item - cause it says Copy - RIGHT?
In other words show them - their ignorance. - Last Edit: 17 years 3 months ago by .
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