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v4.0 Upgrade Wreaked Havoc

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    v4.0 Upgrade Wreaked Havoc

    Posted 12 years 1 month ago
    • The only thing I saw when I looked at my homepage after the v4.0 Gantry upgrade was this:

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      Literally. I have Somaxiom and WP 3.5.1 installed and have restored a backup. This is not the first time a Gantry upgrade has borked everything, and the recent RokStories update destroyed my homepage slider. I had to rebuild it completely.

      Please test these things more thoroughly. I'm spending a lot of time and money fixing your "updates".
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    Re: v4.0 Upgrade Wreaked Havoc

    Posted 12 years 1 month ago
    • This issue was experienced only by users running PHP 5.2 - those on 5.3 had no issue. An update was released today that makes it work on both.

      We do test extensively, nearly 2 months of development and testing went into the release, and a lot of long days and late nights for many of us over the past week. I guess one thing we missed was testing on a version of PHP that was discontinued over a year ago, and shouldn't be used anymore by anyone. If your host uses outdated software, that isn't something we have much control over.
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    Re: v4.0 Upgrade Wreaked Havoc

    Posted 12 years 1 month ago
    • Cliff Pfeifer wrote:
      This issue was experienced only by users running PHP 5.2 - those on 5.3 had no issue. An update was released today that makes it work on both.

      We do test extensively, nearly 2 months of development and testing went into the release, and a lot of long days and late nights for many of us over the past week. I guess one thing we missed was testing on a version of PHP that was discontinued over a year ago, and shouldn't be used anymore by anyone. If your host uses outdated software, that isn't something we have much control over.

      Since only 36% of PHP users are on 5.3, maybe you should consider testing 5.2 until that changes: w3techs.com/technologies/details/pl-php/5.3/all
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    Re: v4.0 Upgrade Wreaked Havoc

    Posted 12 years 1 month ago
    • Like I said, we missed it, then fixed it as soon we became aware. The PHP website states in January of last year that it's no longer supported and 5.3 should be used. I'll take their word for it regardless of how many people aren't aware of it. Why hosts continue to force people to use it is a mystery I will never understand.

      If you're deploying updated software to live websites without doing any of your own testing before hand then the consequences are yours alone. It would take maybe 5 minutes to download a backup of the gantry folder from your website, install the new version, then upload the backup if you had an issue.

      Bottom line is no matter how extensively we test, every user has a different scenario, a different setup, different plugins ECT. We can't accommodate every different possibility. If you're worried about time and money, doing proper testing of your own and performing updates, backups and maintenance in a proper way will save you a lot headaches.
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    Re: v4.0 Upgrade Wreaked Havoc

    Posted 12 years 4 weeks ago
    • Cliff Pfeifer wrote:
      Like I said, we missed it, then fixed it as soon we became aware. The PHP website states in January of last year that it's no longer supported and 5.3 should be used. I'll take their word for it regardless of how many people aren't aware of it. Why hosts continue to force people to use it is a mystery I will never understand.

      If you're deploying updated software to live websites without doing any of your own testing before hand then the consequences are yours alone. It would take maybe 5 minutes to download a backup of the gantry folder from your website, install the new version, then upload the backup if you had an issue.

      Bottom line is no matter how extensively we test, every user has a different scenario, a different setup, different plugins ECT. We can't accommodate every different possibility. If you're worried about time and money, doing proper testing of your own and performing updates, backups and maintenance in a proper way will save you a lot headaches.

      Your comments are offensive, Cliff. You assume quite a bit, and clearly haven't even tested your own assumptions. I did create a backup prior to the upgrade (as I always do). When it failed, I tried restoring just the gantry folder. No dice; I had to restore a complete backup and my SQL DB. Maybe you should spend a little more time with your software before assuming that your customers don't know what they're talking about.

      Furthermore, it doesn't really matter what version PHP says to use if your customer base isn't using it. Market conditions have to inform your development strategies, Cliff, or you'll have a lot more situations like this.
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