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- JEM
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Do you want to duplicate the demo or have a clean install without sample data?
(From your reply, you probably want option 'A', but here are some notes just in case.)
Just to review, there are a few ways to install a template.
A) Use the Rocket Launcher only for a new install and only if you plan to install the sample data. (notes below, some are redundant)
Apply the template to an existing install.
1. If it is not Gantry based, use the bundle
2. If it is Gantry based, use the standalone
In either case, you will need to:
• Install all the extensions for the template that are located on the DL page for the template you are installing
• Possibly have to upgrade Gantry to the latest version if the new template requires a version that you currently have installed.
C) If you want the template and extensions on a clean install without sample data from the RL version (or the Joomla stock install):
• Go here and DL the latest Rocket Launcher version: code.google.com/p/gantry-framework/downloads/list
• Do a clean install and do not install the Sample Data. The Sample Data in this RL version is the Joomla core Sample Data and will not corrupt the install if not installed as it does not contain any RT components. So you will not wind up with any empty RT component / module / plugin folders to deal with later.
• Go to the download section for your template and download the standalone version and the extensions for your template. Install them as you would any other extensions.
• Alternately, you can do a stock install of Joomla from joomla.org without the Sample Data, but you will have to go through one extra step of installing the Gantry framework (from the link above) or use the bundle package from template’s download section, along with installing the extensions.
ROCKET LAUNCHER NOTES:
For quick reference:
NOTE!!!
The Rocket Launcher is for a fresh install ONLY.
It contains a complete version of the latest Joomla release, the template, extensions, and all the sample data you see in the demo. Note: Never use the Rocket Launcher without the Sample Data!
Kevin DuCommun wrote:The RocketLauncher should never be used unless the sample data is installed. The whole point of the RocketLauncher is to give users a way to get up and running quickly by replicating the demo. All of this is accomplished with the use of the database information in the sample data sql.
Without installing sample data, the RocketLauncher is not only the same as a default joomla install with no sample data, but it will actually be badly broken as the launcher contains all of the files and directories for the extensions used in the demo, but none of the database information will be present.
This means that if a user installs the RocketLauncher, but does not install the sample data, most of the extensions will not work as they won’t be detected by joomla, and attempting to install them will cause errors and fail because while Joomla doesn't see them, the directories and files are there.
Basically, there is nothing to gain by using the RocketLauncher without the sample data, and it will cause a whole lot of issues down the road.
You can not use the Rocket Launcher in an existing install of Joomla. If you already have an existing install of Joomla, you will need to apply the template file to it.
In addition to the template file, you’ll need to download and install the extensions for the template. These can also be found in the download area for the template.
Unzip the Rocket Launcher.
A) Install in the root. FTP the contents of the folder to, depending on your platform, public_html or httdocs
Install in a folder. FTP the folder and its contents to, depending on your platform, public_html or httdocs
Note: You can name the folder to anything you like. The default name of the folder is the template name. So you may want to change it to something more friendly, e.g., ‘site’ ‘cms’, etc.
Alternately, you can upload the zipped RL package and extract it on your server through the control panel.
Note: If you have this option, it’s the way to go. It’s much faster to upload a zipped file and extract it on the server than it is to upload a few thousand files. There are also a few other advantages; doing so eliminates the possibility of a file getting missed or corrupted in the upload, sometime what seems to be a good transfer will produce a file not found’ error later on, and this also prevents any strange file permission changes.
As host control panels vary, specific instructions can’t be included here, but you’re sure to find instruction or help in your host’s tutorials, FAQs, or by contacting their support department.
Before you start, you’ll need to create a database on your server.
This is done through your host’s control panel through phpMyAdmin, or the interface used for creating databases. As host control panels vary, specific instructions can’t be included here, but you’re sure to find instruction or help in your host’s tutorials, FAQs, or by contacting their support department.
Once you’ve uploaded the Rocket Launcher files and created a database, browse to the folder,
If it’s in the root:
Ex: www.mysite.com/
If it’s in a folder:
Ex: www.mysite.com/template_directory_name
You don't have to navigate to the installation folder, if Joomla hasn't been installed yet, it will navigate to the install directory automatically. (How cool is that?!)
If it’s in the root:
Note: It's a really simple point, but don't be confused by the ' www.mysite.com/ ' replace 'mysite.com' with your site's URL, for example, here it would be www.rockettheme.com/
If it’s in a folder:
Note: It's a really simple point, but don't be confused by the ' www.mysite.com/ ' replace 'mysite.com' with your site's URL, AND ‘template_directory_name’ with the name of the template directory for example, here it would be www.rockettheme.com/ template_directory_name
The installation screen will appear.
Screen 1:
Choose language
Screen 2:
Pre-installation Check
Screen 3:
License
Screen 4:
You’ll need the following info to make the database connection with Joomla:
Host Name
Username (for the database you’ve created)
Password (for the database you’ve created)
Database Name (for the database you’ve created)
Screen 5:
You can skip this and use an FTP client or add the info later if you don’t have the proper details at this point.
Please note that it’s a good idea to have the proper info, now or later, as this can help you avoid troubles with ‘params.ini is unwriteable later on.
Screen6:
Site Name: This will appear in the title bar of your browser.
Your e-mail: the address you want to use to receive mail from the site
Password: this is for the admin login for Joomla, it can be different than the DB password.
Install Sample Data?
Install the Sample Data! If you don’t want to install the sample data, you should stop here!! And follow the next set of guidelines.
JEM wrote:If you want a clean install to work with (which is may be easier to work with than editing / deleting content) do the following:
Go here and DL the latest Rocket Launcher version: code.google.com/p/gantry-framewo ... loads/list
Do a clean install and do not install the Sample Data. The Sample Data in this RL version is the Joomla core Sample Data and will not corrupt the install if not installed as it does not contain any RT components. So you will not wind up with any empty RT component / module / plugin folders to deal with later.
Go to the download section for your template and download the standalone version and the extensions for your template.
Install them as you would any other extensions.
Alternately, you can do a stock install of Joomla from joomla.org without the Sample Data, but you will have to go through one extra step of installing the Gantry framework (from the link above) or use the bundle package from template’s download section, along with installing the extensions.
Screen 7:
You’ll be prompted to delete or rename the installation directory.
Before you can view the site or login as administrator, you’ll need to browse to the directory in your FTP client or CP and do so. - Thanks,
jim
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- JEM
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- JEM
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Seems you've posted and deleted... but I got the message anyway... :shock:
You could install the template in a sub folder of your site and develop it there.
For example, if your site is www.mysite.com , in your root (htdocs or public_html) you'd create a folder 'dev' or 'test' or what ever, then install your template in that folder, www.mysite.com/dev , and work on it without disturbing your live site.
Note, I (we) always suggest to, if you have the option, upload the zipped RL and extract it on your server using your host's CP it's much faster and reliable than FTPing the extracted files. Also note, if you create a second install, you will need a second DB, don't install the second site in the original DB you you will be creating a nightmare!!
Then you can move the site when you are ready using Akeeba.
www.akeebabackup.com/software/akeeba-backup.html - Thanks,
jim
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- JEM
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From your deleted post....
So far I have found that to use the "sample data" button; I need to delete Joomla from the site and use the "rocketlauncher.pdf" tutorial that is available with any of the RT templates.thad wrote:
where I upload the contents of the rt_templateName_j15-rocketlauncher to my server.
Then hit:
www.mysite.com/rt_templateName_j15-rocketlauncher .
But the would knock my site off the network; so this solution is unacceptable. One of the options is to provide a SQL file, but as stated in an earlier post, the SQL is not available. Thus, my question is "What other options do I have?"Why is it so complicated to perform this seemly simple function?
Thad,
In one of my previous posts, I again outlined the options you have, A, B, or C.
Choose which situation best applies to you and follow the instructions.
I also added addition instructions in my subsequent post to help you achieve the desired results.
Honestly, support should start after you have successfully installed the template, and be in reference to customizations or problems you may have with the template itself (so we are really trying to help you above and beyond regular support).
( www.rockettheme.com/legal/terms.php ? #14)
IMHO, nothing here seems complicated if you have some working knowledge of Joomla and are somewhat familiar about how to use your server's CP, and can follow the instructions that have been posted.
Option A, B, or C... dump the current site or create a dev site, etc...
If you really need help beyond what we can provide for you, you can always post here:
www.rockettheme.com/forum/index.php?f=175&rb_v=viewforum - Thanks,
jim
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- Rich Bean
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thad wrote:
How does one proceed to best integrate the database of a previous RT template with the database of a newer RT template having these "data samples".
Thad,
That question IMHO is totally irrelevant...demo content is set up per template, therefore each css file and all rokcandy macros will be different. They are not really interchangeable out of the box.
You'd be better off picking a template that you like and if you're more comfortable with a RT Launcher sample data set using it and modifying it to suit your needs. Don't waste your time trying to fit one set of demo content into 3 or 4 demo templates...it just doesn't make sense.
If you really can't decide on a template and have the need to use the demo content, then my advice is to install each in a different directory or sub-domain, play with each of them separately and then pick one.
Don't mean to offend, but it seems like you don't have a very good handle on the purpose of the demo content included in the RL versions.
Hope this makes sense.
Cheers,
Rich - My Sites:
Perth Website Design
Scuba Marketing
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- thad
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Thanks for your reply, Rich.
I did not realize that each template is that specialized that it would be difficult to translate from one template to another.
This is potentially a place for someone to write a software tool that aids in this translation.
thad
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