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- newdawnfades
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Ragdata wrote:
LOL - OK ... so you only want to hear from inexperienced members, or people who share the same opinion as yourself. That's cool - enjoy your narrow perspective and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
That's a funny answer... I'm not saying I want to hear opinion only from inexperienced users, nor from people who share my opinion. My opinion is a political-based opinion, have you heard about the economical crisis? I repeat: is not serious to make high prices in this terrible moment. I only want to talk about this side of the discussion. But you say that EXPERIENCED users are the "sages", and opinion of experienced users is over all...ok...this is the other (technical) side of the discussion. Anyway I'm an experienced technical user, I'm a doctor in computer science. But my topic is not related to it, is related to a "political" side of the discussion.
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- Adrian Cooper
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Dang - you have blown my cover. Yes, I admit it - I am related to the entire RT team - we are really just one big happy family cartel, scheming to make website development so expensive, that only the wealthy few can participate - then we can have all global web development business all to ourselves.
And yes I admit it - am totally addicted to the RT forums - so much so that I have even posted 200 posts in the last three years or so I have been a member here.
That aside - if you want to enter in to a political discussion, I suggest this forum: http://www.politicalforum.com/ might be more appropriate, where they seem to have a wide range of subjects.
As a matter of interest - what would you consider to be a fair annual price to pay for these RT Themes which stand alone as the very best available from every perspective? - www.ourultimatereality.com
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- derek Cairns
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This site offers such bang for buck.
Would not build joomla sites without it.
Keep up the good work.
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- Jeanette Kwok
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- when is this price increase scheduled?
- http://www.jeanettekwok.com
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- Carbs
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lazenge wrote:
@carbs
the topic is - how to pay to receive a service -, and I think your prices are too high NOW, I've subscribed your club to have a RAD set of tools to develop front-end objects, but by now I get convenience if I code my templates by myself
Mahalos for understanding that I'm an illterate mook - I've only completed hooked on phonics a couple of days ago. In addiiton, I live under a bridge, so I have zero clue about the economic crisis you mention...but my gruff looks mighty fine...
Also I appreciate attrbuting the development of RT themes to me - not bad for a junior rocketter - only thing I'm missing is a cape and an understanding on how to do what you said I can do...
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- John Hodgkinson
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- Retired, but build and run websites for organisations of school leaders and others - e.g. http://www.icponline.org, http://www.aspa.asn.au, http://www.appa.asn.au
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I've been a member for just over 2 years. I manage a couple of sites for non-profit associations, and they do not have big budgets. I charge what they want to pay to get their information out to members. My sites use RT templates, with some very, very minor modifications, as I am not skilled in graphics or coding. I am not related to any of the RT team, nor do I know any of them personally. I have used only a very few of the templates for my sites, as my target groups are Gen X and older - rather conservative groups, who do not like the dark background, heavy-looking graphics of many of the RT templates. That last point means that I do not like every month's template - in fact, I like probably only 2 or 3 each year and use even fewer.
While, in theory, I agree with the idea that you do not charge high prices in difficult economic times, I do not think that argument applies in this case. I do not believe that the membership charges are too high under the new pricing structure. In fact, they are probably getting to where they should have been for some time.
I would ask: "What is the maximum that I am prepared to pay to get the templates, extensions, tutorials, and assistance (in the forums) that RT gives me?" My answer at this time is: "What they are charging under the new pricing structure." My (and maybe not very detailed) research of what else is around showed me that RT gives excellent value for money - and that is the key to whether I rejoined last year, and it will be when I decide whether to join again later this year.
So my argument is an economic one. If I believe that RT membership is good value-for-money, then I'll stay as a member. If not, then I won't rejoin.
Maybe RT should increase the charges by a little bit each year, rather than keep them steady for several years and then increase them by a seemingly large amount.
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- newdawnfades
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thank you guys
I understand every opinion
except this
>That aside - if you want to enter in to a political discussion, I suggest this >forum:http://www.politicalforum.com/ might be more appropriate, where they seem to >have a wide range of subjects.
That's very BAD, cause EVERYTHING is related to a political discussion, EVERYTHING. And after all, RT templates are for Joomla, and Joomla is an open-source platform, and open-source is very close to a political matter, don't you know?
Anyway, I understand
And finally say that I appreciate a lot RT templates quality, and that's the matter why I'm a member of the club.
Peace and respect to everyone
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- James Spencer
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Jeanette Kwok wrote:
when is this price increase scheduled?
They changed in December Jeanette, when we launched RTv2, check out www.rockettheme.com/joomla-club-details - James Spencer / Developer & Support / Hull, UK
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- Adrian Cooper
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lazenge wrote:
thank you guys
I understand every opinion
except this
>That aside - if you want to enter in to a political discussion, I suggest this >forum:http://www.politicalforum.com/ might be more appropriate, where they seem to >have a wide range of subjects.
That's very BAD, cause EVERYTHING is related to a political discussion, EVERYTHING. And after all, RT templates are for Joomla, and Joomla is an open-source platform, and open-source is very close to a political matter, don't you know?
Anyway, I understand
And finally say that I appreciate a lot RT templates quality, and that's the matter why I'm a member of the club.
Peace and respect to everyone
Lazenge, in the intersest of making a positive contribution to this topic, and addressing your concerns, it seems to me there are three distinct issues:
1, The actual cost value of the RT service.
2. The perceived cost value of the RT service.
3. Ability to afford the RT service.
You are clearly concerned about # 3, but then justifying your own position with # 1 and #2.
So let's look at each of these shall we.
1. I have been in the high tech business for 33 years, and the Internet business for nearly 20 years - since long before the Web was even invented. I was a beta tester for the first Web servers and for Mosaic - the first browser, and for hundreds of products and services since.
So I think I recognise value when I see it, and believe me - RT is exceptional value by any benchmark.
The main issue with the Internet is that most users still think everything should be free. This stems from the failed advertising supported free services of yesteryear. The model is very rapidly moving towards subscription based services such as this one, offering premium quality products and content.
The subscription based model is just taking off and will become huge in the next three years.
So you have a straight freedom of choice of downloading the free Joomla templates out there and then spending days of your valuable time making them fit your site requirements or of your customers, or you can pay for the RT service and get the very best Joomla templates available anywhere, with lots of integrated extensions and features that really take Joomla site creation to a new level.
The choice is yours. Today's Internet is all about freedom of choice.
2. The perceived cost - again the "free" mentality stems from the sites of the late 1990's and the "tech boom". It was completely irrational and unsustainable as events eventually proved.
Your issue appears to be having to come up with $60 to renew your membership, and using the "recession" to justify it.
Well without wishing to be unsympathetic, that is your issue, not Andy's.
What do you value your time at?
If RT templates save you a few days or weeks, then surely you have saved a lot more than $60 - equivalent to $5 per month?
That said there is no doubt that a small monthly membership fee is much more appealing than an annual membership, due to human psychology. People tend to look at the cost of joining a site, and of course $5 is a no-brainer, whereas $60 people might baulk at - particularly if they are married ans the wife would sooner use the money on a new dress. But the same wife would think - "9 bucks - that's not much - go for it". It is all psychology.
If RT was a monthly membership of $9.99 then no one would think twice about joining, and RT would make twice as much.
I presume that Andy's issue there is that someone could pay $9.99, download everything and cancel.
That is not the way people think. They do not cancel for two reasons:
a. They will always be afraid of missing out on the next great template - psychology again
b. The community support and value on its own is worth more than $9.99 per month.
Once someone becomes part of a community, and finds it valuable, they do not want to leave.
3. Ability to afford the RT service. This seems to be your issue, using the "recession" to justify it.
The fact is - if your websites are also your income, then the RT fee is not a luxury, it is a business expense the same as your web hosting, software like Photoshop etc, even your Internet connection.
People running Internet businesses these days have no idea how easy and profitable it is compared with a bricks and mortar business of just a decade ago. You can run an Internet business offering products and services to a global audience of billions, for a few hundred dollars per month if that, and still people moan about the cost of web hosting etc even though their business depends on it.
Try running a bricks and mortar business with 70+ staff and monthly overheads of $1M+, all to make 10% profit, and I think you see $60 per year for RT membership in a completely new perspective.
At the final analysis RT offers exceptional value and should be seen in that context. - www.ourultimatereality.com
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- Andy Miller
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- Web Kahuna
- Wow, great post Adrian, I could not of said it better myself!
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