Looking for suggestions - creating new site with old site online
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- Bob Ateah
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I need some suggestions.
Here is what I need to do:
Company ABC has hired me to re-do their website and host it as well. There site is critical to their very busy business, so down time is a no-no.
Their current site is www.abc.com (fake url).
They want to retain the domain name.
How can I create an account on my hosting service for www.abc.com , build the site whislt still having the url resolve back to their old site until I change the dns info? Do I just create a an account for www.abc.com and create the new site in a subfolder to be moved later (thus precluding any database exporting/ importing)?
I hope that I've expressed myself clearly enough.
Any suggestions welcome.
Cheers! - Last Edit: 17 years 10 months ago by Bob Ateah.
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- GollumX
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create a new account with the domain abc.com.
no need to work in a subfolder (will only complicate matters)
build site as usual.
so long as you don't change the DNS info at the domain registrar it will continue to resolve to the old site.
in the meantime to work with the new site you are building, do one of two things:
1.) use your hosts file... browse to C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc and open up the hosts file with notepad. add this line:(ie. IP address the site is hosted on, followed by the domain name) XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX abc.com
save the file. leave the filename as is; do not add an extension. close your browser, open again and your site should now be accessible. if not, try restarting your computer. remember to remove this line from the hosts file when you are ready to deploy the site.
2.) if you have an extra domain name lying about, add it as a parked domain. then use this parked domain to access and work with the site. you can remove it after the site goes live. (This is my preferred method)
whichever you use, the critical stage comes later, during switchover. at that time simply change your dns information at your registrar to point to the new site.
the switchover may take up to 48hrs, and during this time, visitors from different parts of the planet will be going to one of both sites, depending on whether their dns server has updated... so keep the old site up for at least 2days. Some emails may be directed to the older site and some to the newer site, so remember to check your inbox at your old site, or preferably, add email forwarders at your old site so they send all emails onto a another account - maybe a gmail account. - Last Edit: 17 years 10 months ago by GollumX.
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- Bob Ateah
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I really appreciate you taking the time to explain that in detail my friend, very helpful.
Thank you GollumX, I owe you a beer or two!
Cheers! - The member formerly known as Roland Deschain
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- GollumX
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Cheers Roland, i'll take two
Let me know if you need a domain name ass an add-on. I have one I won't be using until September. - Say no to Internet Explorer 6.
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- Daniel Chapman
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An issue you might have is transferring data from the old site to the new one, because what if someone registers at the old site after you do you data dump, or tries to make a purchase?
If you wait 24 ours for everyone's dns to roll over before your dump, then do you delete the people who have registered in the meantime if they had an account on the previous server and 'made' a new one on the new server. How do you determine these people?
Also what about people who try to access the new site in this 24 hours and have no account at all? what do they do?
My suggestion is this. when you are ready to roll over.
1.disable any operations that send information to the old server (registrations, purchases etc) with a notice that you are rolling the site over and they will need to check back in the next 6-24 hours. People can still see the site and get info however.
2. Once it's disabled, take your data dump, upload it to the new server. Run some quick tests to ensure it's all there.
3. Activate the new site, i.e. consider it live and ready to accept registrations and customers
4. Switch over the DNS to the new site.
Try to determine the most quiet period for server activity and time the disabling of the old site for immediately before this quiet period, this will hopefully give the bulk of the users a chance for their DNS to catch up before they actually need to use the site. - Last Edit: 17 years 10 months ago by Daniel Chapman.
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GollumX wrote:
Cheers Roland, i'll take two
Let me know if you need a domain name ass an add-on. I have one I won't be using until September.
A domain name ass...
I do not need to apply my imagination to that one. -
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- Bob Ateah
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Daniel Chapman wrote:
An issue you might have is transferring data from the old site to the new one, because what if someone registers at the old site after you do you data dump, or tries to make a purchase?
If you wait 24 ours for everyone's dns to roll over before your dump, then do you delete the people who have registered in the meantime if they had an account on the previous server and 'made' a new one on the new server. How do you determine these people?
Also what about people who try to access the new site in this 24 hours and have no account at all? what do they do?
My suggestion is this. when you are ready to roll over.
1.disable any operations that send information to the old server (registrations, purchases etc) with a notice that you are rolling the site over and they will need to check back in the next 6-24 hours. People can still see the site and get info however.
2. Once it's disabled, take your data dump, upload it to the new server. Run some quick tests to ensure it's all there.
3. Activate the new site, i.e. consider it live and ready to accept registrations and customers
4. Switch over the DNS to the new site.
Try to determine the most quiet period for server activity and time the disabling of the old site for immediately before this quiet period, this will hopefully give the bulk of the users a chance for their DNS to catch up before they actually need to use the site.
Thanks mate! Users won't be an issue, there is a finite amount of users on this site (4) and registration is disabled.
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