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  • Artio joomSEF Component

    Posted 18 years 2 months ago
    • Does anyone here have any experience using the Artio joomSEF Component?

      extensions.joomla.org/component/option,c...k_id,1063/Itemid,35/

      I am thinking about trying this component and was wondering if anyone has any good/bad experiences with this
      or now of any reasons why I should not.
      Maybe somone has tried this or a similar solution and could suggest something else /things to watch out for/issues/ etc.
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    Re: Artio joomSEF Component

    Posted 18 years 2 months ago
    • I think that's a new one as I've never heard of it.
  • Re: Artio joomSEF Component

    Posted 18 years 2 months ago
    • After having spent about half a day of "fun" testing this component I am going to post my experiences so far with it, things to watch out for that they don't warn you about and a few other nifty discoveries I have made testing it.

      The Component seems to work well after some haggling with your .htaccess file and your joomla config.php.
      Look for an update to this post as I am sure some of you rocketthemers have possibly run into the same "FUN" I did....
      It's my 11 year anniversary and I have to go out with the wife ...!
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  • Re: Artio joomSEF Component

    Posted 18 years 2 months ago
  • Re: Artio joomSEF Component

    Posted 18 years 2 months ago
    • Whats up with this component so far....


      Installation

      Installation was pretty straightforward: It simply installed just like any other joomla component logged into the back end of your site.

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      - + Installation
      Upload the zip file to Joomla! using the component installer in the usual way. 
      For apache, set your ".htaccess" file like this:
              ##
              # @version $Id: htaccess.txt 2368 2006-02-14 17:40:02Z stingrey $
              # @package Joomla
              # @copyright Copyright (C) 2005 Open Source Matters. All rights reserved.
              # @license http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html GNU/GPL
              # Joomla! is Free Software
              ##
       
       
              #####################################################
              #  READ THIS COMPLETELY IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE THIS FILE
              #
              # The line just below this section: 'Options FollowSymLinks' may cause problems
              # with some server configurations.  It is required for use of mod_rewrite, but may already
              # be set by your server administrator in a way that dissallows changing it in
              # your .htaccess file.  If using it causes your server to error out, comment it out (add # to
              # beginning of line), reload your site in your browser and test your sef url's.  If they work,
              # it has been set by your server administrator and you do not need it set here.
              #
              # Only use one of the two SEF sections that follow.  Lines that can be uncommented
              # (and thus used) have only one #.  Lines with two #'s should not be uncommented
              # In the section that you don't use, all lines should start with #
              #
              # For Standard SEF, use the standard SEF section.  You can comment out
              # all of the RewriteCond lines and reduce your server's load if you
              # don't have directories in your root named 'component' or 'content'
              #
              # If you are using a 3rd Party SEF or the Core SEF solution
              # uncomment all of the lines in the '3rd Party or Core SEF' section
              #
              #####################################################
       
              #####  SOLVING PROBLEMS WITH COMPONENT URL's that don't work #####
              # SPECIAL NOTE FOR SMF USERS WHEN SMF IS INTEGRATED AND BRIDGED
              # OR ANY SITUATION WHERE A COMPONENT's URL's AREN't WORKING
              #
              # In both the 'Standard SEF', and '3rd Party or Core SEF' sections the line:
              # RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^(/component/option,com) [NC,OR] ##optional - see notes##
              # May need to be uncommented.  If you are running your Joomla! from
              # a subdirectory the name of the subdirectory will need to be inserted into this
              # line.  For example, if your Joomla! is in a subdirectory called '/test/',
              # change this:
              # RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^(/component/option,com) [NC,OR] ##optional - see notes##
              # to this:
              # RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^(/test/component/option,com) [NC,OR] ##optional - see notes##
              #
              #####################################################
       
       
              ##  Can be commented out if causes errors, see notes above.
              Options FollowSymLinks
       
              #
              #  mod_rewrite in use
       
              RewriteEngine On
       
       
              #  Uncomment following line if your webserver's URL
              #  is not directly related to physical file paths.
              #  Update Your Joomla! Directory (just / for root)
       
              # RewriteBase /
       
       
              ########## Begin Standard SEF Section
              ## ALL (RewriteCond) lines in this section are only required if you actually
              ## have directories named 'content' or 'component' on your server
              ## If you do not have directories with these names, comment them out.
              #
              #RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
              #RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
              #RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^(/component/option,com) [NC,OR]          ##optional - see notes##
              #RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} (/|\.htm|\.php|\.html|/[^.]*)$  [NC]
              #RewriteRule ^(content/|component/) index.php
              #
              ########## End Standard SEF Section
       
       
              ########## Begin 3rd Party or Core SEF Section
              #
              #RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^(/component/option,com) [NC,OR]          ##optional - see notes##
              RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} (/|\.htm|\.php|\.html|/[^.]*)$  [NC]
              RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
              RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
              RewriteRule (.*) index.php
              #
              ########## End 3rd Party or Core SEF Section
       
      Changing your .htaccess file

      Changing the .htaccess file was pretty straightforward once I figured out wich lines I needed to uncomment.
      I don't want to steer anyone wrong here as each sites config. will most likely be different from mine depending on your sites hosting, server, htaccess rules, use of PHPSuExec, location of joomla install etc.

      After enabling SEO in sites Global config in the backend and enabling SEF urls in the artioJoomsef component
      The urls in my site changed in a good way like
      This:
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      *Except for noah's classifieds wich I am still having fun with.
      The menu item component Link turned out pretty well... until I clicked a category link within noah's and my new pretty urls got ugly real quick...
      menu item component link went from This: mysite.com/classifieds/index.php
      To this:
      mysite.com/index.php?option=com_noah&Itemid=53&method=showhtmllist&list=classifiedscategory&rollid=1&fromfromlist=AND on and on...


      I was thinking "sweet that was way too easy" and then after I logged out of my site emptied cache/cookies etc. and opened up my site using my bookmark to it I said "OH Crap" or something close to that ;)... as I was then confronted with a not so sweet looking 302 error code response header....

      Thought to myself at that point "I must have screwed up the .htaccess or something" so I double checked it, it looked right to me and I then performed some searches on joomla.org, and at the dev's site www.artio.cz/en/support-forums and the only thing I could come up with was this:
      Site working fine with friendly urls at http://mysite.com  but no access by going to www.mysite.com

      Solution that worked for me to access site without errors for me was to edit my sites joomla config.php "livesite" from
      Before:
      $mosConfig_live_site = 'http://mysite.com';
      After:
      $mosConfig_live_site = 'http://www.mysite.com';
      After I read this in the forum on Artio:
      "JoomSEF has no direct influence to whether www.yoursite.com or yoursite.com will or not work. This is related just to your other Joomla! and Apache (and possibly DNS) settings."

      So far things seem to be working very well after the problems I had with the configuration of the component; no huge server load, site slowdowns or any other weird and wacky things. I will keep you posted with updates as time allows.


      Note to Peter: Hey Pete It's Pete! Yes I was thinking of doing that very same thing just as soon as time allows it!
      When I was looking at openSef a little while back I was intrigued with the features.....


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    Re: Artio joomSEF Component

    Posted 18 years 2 months ago
    • I've not tested it for a week but these were the problems I reported - you might want to check & see if they've been fixed before using on a live site.

      It does NOT redirect old urls. (no 301) - you'll have to do it through htaccess.
      so when the SE/browser ask for index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=107&Itemid=85 - that's what they'll get, even though your page is now called nice-page-name.html - duplicate pages, obviously not a problem for a new site with no indexed pages.

      The component will not allow you to point 2 urls to the same page - not a biggie IF you only have a few pages you need to alter, you can do it manually in the database, but a big oversight in my eyes.

      any module that doesn't pass an itemid causes duplicate pages.

      when you purge the sef - it is NOT necessarily recreated in the same order - so a numbered page - page/1.html might turn into page/2.html after a purge.

      not changing internal urls in intro text.

      I'm pretty sure they fixed the pagination problem - but again you might want to make sure.

      All that said it does some things way better than opensef & I hope they get the problems fixed.

      I intend to use this on any new site but doubt I'll ever apply it to an existing site.
  • Re: Artio joomSEF Component

    Posted 18 years 1 month ago
    • Brenda Ford wrote:

      I intend to use this on any new site but doubt I'll ever apply it to an existing site.

      I'm taking the plunge. I've had it installed a couple weeks now as I've been getting the new site ready -- no major problems.

      Your comments were helpful: thanks.
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    Re: Artio joomSEF Component

    Posted 18 years 1 month ago
    • Well, I tried to install this component two time without success. :'( :'( :'(
  • Re: Artio joomSEF Component

    Posted 18 years 1 month ago
    • Sorry I have been away for a week or so..
      Could you let me know what kind of errors you got?
      Perhaps I may be able to help.
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    Re: Artio joomSEF Component

    Posted 18 years 1 month ago
    • Hi Peter and welcome back!

      When I install the joomSEF, only the main page work properly and whan I want to access other section I have the PAGE NOT FOUND message :P
      In reality I don't understand what I 'm supposed to do in the .htaccess file. ??? After the installation of the component, a message said that my .htaccess was not detected and to add some lines of code in the file. I do it but dont work.
      After that I added the code
      - + Installation
      Upload the zip file to Joomla! using the component installer in the usual way. 
      For apache, set your ".htaccess" file like this:
              ##
              # @version $Id: htaccess.txt 2368 2006-02-14 17:40:02Z stingrey $
              # @package Joomla
              # @copyright Copyright (C) 2005 Open Source Matters. All rights reserved.
              # @license http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html GNU/GPL
              # Joomla! is Free Software
              ##
       
       
              #####################################################
              #  READ THIS COMPLETELY IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE THIS FILE
              #
              # The line just below this section: 'Options FollowSymLinks' may cause problems
              # with some server configurations.  It is required for use of mod_rewrite, but may already
              # be set by your server administrator in a way that dissallows changing it in
              # your .htaccess file.  If using it causes your server to error out, comment it out (add # to
              # beginning of line), reload your site in your browser and test your sef url's.  If they work,
              # it has been set by your server administrator and you do not need it set here.
              #
              # Only use one of the two SEF sections that follow.  Lines that can be uncommented
              # (and thus used) have only one #.  Lines with two #'s should not be uncommented
              # In the section that you don't use, all lines should start with #
              #
              # For Standard SEF, use the standard SEF section.  You can comment out
              # all of the RewriteCond lines and reduce your server's load if you
              # don't have directories in your root named 'component' or 'content'
              #
              # If you are using a 3rd Party SEF or the Core SEF solution
              # uncomment all of the lines in the '3rd Party or Core SEF' section
              #
              #####################################################
       
              #####  SOLVING PROBLEMS WITH COMPONENT URL's that don't work #####
              # SPECIAL NOTE FOR SMF USERS WHEN SMF IS INTEGRATED AND BRIDGED
              # OR ANY SITUATION WHERE A COMPONENT's URL's AREN't WORKING
              #
              # In both the 'Standard SEF', and '3rd Party or Core SEF' sections the line:
              # RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^(/component/option,com) [NC,OR] ##optional - see notes##
              # May need to be uncommented.  If you are running your Joomla! from
              # a subdirectory the name of the subdirectory will need to be inserted into this
              # line.  For example, if your Joomla! is in a subdirectory called '/test/',
              # change this:
              # RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^(/component/option,com) [NC,OR] ##optional - see notes##
              # to this:
              # RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^(/test/component/option,com) [NC,OR] ##optional - see notes##
              #
              #####################################################
       
       
              ##  Can be commented out if causes errors, see notes above.
              Options FollowSymLinks
       
              #
              #  mod_rewrite in use
       
              RewriteEngine On
       
       
              #  Uncomment following line if your webserver's URL
              #  is not directly related to physical file paths.
              #  Update Your Joomla! Directory (just / for root)
       
              # RewriteBase /
       
       
              ########## Begin Standard SEF Section
              ## ALL (RewriteCond) lines in this section are only required if you actually
              ## have directories named 'content' or 'component' on your server
              ## If you do not have directories with these names, comment them out.
              #
              #RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
              #RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
              #RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^(/component/option,com) [NC,OR]          ##optional - see notes##
              #RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} (/|\.htm|\.php|\.html|/[^.]*)$  [NC]
              #RewriteRule ^(content/|component/) index.php
              #
              ########## End Standard SEF Section
       
       
              ########## Begin 3rd Party or Core SEF Section
              #
              #RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^(/component/option,com) [NC,OR]          ##optional - see notes##
              RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} (/|\.htm|\.php|\.html|/[^.]*)$  [NC]
              RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
              RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
              RewriteRule (.*) index.php
              #
              ########## End 3rd Party or Core SEF Section

      Well, this is not a solution because I problem is the same. Finally I've removed all code in the .htaccess file to let only the code above... the issue is the same. I know it's a shame but I'm not good enought to understand the step by step installation. :D

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