Who Supports Chrome
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- Ragdata
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While I wholeheartedly agree with statements made here as to the lack of regard given to W3 'standards' by browser manufacturers, and suffer as much as any pro developer because of it, the choice is quite simple for me.
The software and websites I build are built, ultimately, for the clients of my clients.
Therefore, the choice of which browsers I support comes down to one factor and one factor only - which browser the unwashed masses are using to view my product. To make life easier for me, I pick the top 2 + Safari (being the default browser for Mac) - the rest can get with the program or get stuffed.
Q4 2008 stats as published by Market Share :
- MSIE - 69.80%
- Firefox - 20.66%
- Safari - 7.18% (but Mac users account for only around 5% of the unwashed masses)
- Chrome - 0.87%
However, given Google's prominance in the marketplace, we may see Chrome start to catch up and perhaps even outpace Firefox. IF that happens, I may have no choice but to support it.
Let's face it - if the choice was ever really about principles rather than market demand, none of us would have ever supported anything but Netscape. Imagine that ... with a united front, perhaps we could have ousted IE during the great browser war.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing". Lovely sentiment, but considers neither the allure of evil, nor the fact that - as shepherds - we are often to be found running after the flock shouting "STOP" in vain. - Ragdata's Rubber Duck
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- Terp
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Ragdata wrote:
However, given Google's prominance in the marketplace, we may see Chrome start to catch up and perhaps even outpace Firefox. IF that happens, I may have no choice but to support it.
As the American idiom goes, they are cut from the same cloth, no? I thought Google IS Firefox (didn't they buy Mozilla?).
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- Ragdata
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Terp wrote:
As the American idom goes, they are cut from the same cloth, no? I thought Google IS Firefox (didn't they buy Mozilla?).
LOL - if that's the case, is Chrome a sheep in wolf's clothing?
(think about that before making the obvious reply folks)
Seriously though - I haven't looked at the code, so I don't know. But it wouldn't be the first time that a company has bought-out its competitors just to shut them down (or up) ... there's even examples in the first post in this thread. - Ragdata's Rubber Duck
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- SteveB
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Well there's no shortage of wisdom in this thread.
I see this subject as the online world being on the edge of change, and we can consciously affect that change to the right conclusion with the benefit of hindsight and experience, if only we recognise the importance of where we are in time and history.
Google has pursued the internet with the same zeal and relentlessness as Microsoft used to secure the desktop, and Google is now close to owning the internet as "Uncle Bill" owns the desktop.
Are our collective memories so short that we are willing to allow the same thing to happen to the internet as what happened to the PC. While we revel at Google in the role of Giant Slayer, we need to be careful we don't simply exchange one evil behemoth for another.
While we see the support of Linux and Open Source and see proof that they are just great guys, cynics may see it as arming and aiding usurpers to unseat the King, and keeping him fighting against many enemies on many fronts. Besides what commercial interest could Google ever get out of free software development.... apart from Android.... and Chrome.... and.... but they wouldn't have planned that from the start would they? (sarcasm)
And as another poster already pointed out, the OS as we know it will eventually die at some unknown date, and after that the internet will be the OS.
If successful, Chrome will complete the circle of closing the internet to any real competition, and as we've all seen when competition is reduced to being barely a token, innovation and progress slows, we lose our freedom of choice, we're forced to accept products that are of poor quality, and we're suddenly all forced to adopt new standards as dictated by our new master.
Google owns the SERPs.
Google owns the ads.
And if Google owns 70% of browsers and combines all 3 they control everything we see, and how we see it. We still have time to say no, and keep Google as a great search engine and a great innovator, and great guys of course!
And remember, they've got pictures of your house now too!
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- breeze
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If Chrome respect standards, I have no issue with it. Competition is a good thing.
As for this IE debate... really? I just want back half the time I've spent troubleshooting and resolving IE6 issues. I'm sure, all told, I've donated weeks of my life to IE6 specific issues. On many occasions, IE6 issues have eaten up any profit I otherwise would have had seen as I take ethical issue with charging for all the hours required to resolve some IE6 issues I encounter. Ironically, Microsoft, for all its wealth, sees no ethical dilemma.
I've literally lost thousands of dollars in billable hours while stuck on IE6 CSS compatibility issues.
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