SH 404 SEF
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- Penn Wooding
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I have got one website that is still on 1.0 and I'm in the midst of creating a new 1.5 website to replace it. Now I've always enabled search engine friendly URLs on my websites, including all the 1.0 sites. Now if you remember, the basic search engine friendly URLs on the 1.0 platform would end in something like /content/15/25/. My remaining 1.0 site has SH404SEF installed. Now I hope I can explain my query without confusing you.
When I enable SH404SEF, you obviously get a completely different URL. I think mine is made up of the category and section, plus the filename. Does this component dynamically change the original SEF URL? The reason I ask is because I was experimenting by switching off SH404SEF so that the URLs reverted back to the default SEF URLs. Even though I did this, it didn't throw up a 404 error when I was clicking on either an external link, or a search engine link, the link is still directed you to the website okay. I suppose a little bit like two people with different names living at the same address.
The reason I want to know is because when I migrate, I might have to set up some 301 redirect. I need to know whether to put in the SH404SEF URL, or the default SEF URL (/content/25/50/) - http://www.Oscarfishlover.com - the website for great Oscar Fish advice and help
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- Penn Wooding
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- I'll have a look at their forum and see what they say.
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- Emma griffith
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Hi Penn, when you disabled SH404SEF did you also clean the URL cache? If not than it will still see both the SEF url and the non SEF URL
What you can do depending on how big your site is, do a site:yourdomain see what pages are indexed in the site. Then on the new site go to your SEF URL's and you will see you can add an alias put in the url's in the alias section for example
oldsite.com/old-content-to-redirect.html
Put into the alias section old-content-to-redirect.html
That should do the trick pretty simply, although if you have a big site it could be a pain, it is still simpler to do it that way then 301 redirects within you htaccess file.
SH404SEF does not actually change your non SEF URL's it just as the term suggests re-writes the URL and 301 redirects
Hope thatt helps
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- Penn Wooding
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Thank you Emma
I recently migrated another website but this did not have sh404sef installed. Some of the old URLs are still coming up on Google. if you click on them you are still redirected to the correct page, it's just that the old URL is displaying in the address bar and both titles menu/article are showing together. I'm not sure whether this is happening because it enabled the back links plug-in. www.tetraplegicliving.com/content/view/52/89/ (I hope the contact does not offend, it is the only URL I could find quickly)
Obviously the other website has got sh 404 SEF installed so that is why I wanted to know which URL it needed to use if I were to go down the 301 redirection Road. Because you have to put in the old URL, and the URL you are being redirected to.
I am somewhat confused now.
This is the URL on the new site: www.brixhamace.org/thursday-group , this is the same page but the old URL: www.brixhamace.org/content/view/13/27/
So if I change the alias in "article" will that replace /thursday-group?. Not sure that's what I want,That means the URL will always be the old URL. I expect I have got the wrong end of the stick. The 301 redirect is quite straightforward and eventually the old URLs change anyway.
Sorry, but could you elaborate regarding putting the old URL in the alias. - http://www.Oscarfishlover.com - the website for great Oscar Fish advice and help
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- Emma griffith
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Hi Penn I can understand your confusion, when you go into the back end and select SH404SEF you are presented with all their buttons, config clear cache etc.
The second button down is view SEF URL's open that find the new page, click on the URL it will open and you will see a box that allows to list aliases. This is where you would put the old content URL that is indexed in Google or similar.
It is just a more visual way of a standard 301 redirect within the htaccess file.
Hope that helps a little.
Emma
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- Penn Wooding
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okay, I think that's a little more clear now. I'm just playing with sh404sef on a 1.0 website that I recently migrated to 1.5, luckily I still had all the files in place on another server so I have changed it back to the old 1.0 site so I can have a play around with sh404sef. It's all setup exactly the same way as my fish website which I need to get right because I don't want to lose any traffic.
If you enable the back link plug-in [not entirely sure whether this actually makes a difference] on the new 1.5 site, anyone clicking on one of the old search engine friendly URLs on the old site [1.0] will still be redirected to your new site. The only thing that's different is the URL, the old url is being displayed in the address bar. At first glance this may not be a problem, however I was finding that both the menu and page title are being displayed. Like this example: www.tetraplegicliving.com/content/view/52/89/ . You can see that the website name and the page heading up being displayed which looks messy. You can see that the correct menu item is actually selected in the menu , if you click on this again, you're actually taken to the new 1.5 URL.This is why I have been using the 301 redirect, I prefer to do this because I'm also finding that the menu is missing off some page that display the old URL.
Anyway, I have redirected all the major pages on this particular website. And like I said in the previous post, they are all gradually changing to the correct URL now anyway.
Just going back to SH404SEF again, why are there quite a few duplicate sef URLs? - http://www.Oscarfishlover.com - the website for great Oscar Fish advice and help
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