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What would YOU do?

  • Re: What would YOU do?

    Posted 15 years 2 months ago
  • Re: What would YOU do?

    Posted 15 years 2 months ago
    • You should give out the website URL and hope that a DOS attack happens.

      Its a pity you cannot still access the server, as a simple htacess diverting to your site telling the whole story would have been a classic!

      This happened to me once in the early days of 'professional' websites..in the early 90's.

      Unlucky for the company owner he did not know anything about hosting and I was able to take the entire site down. He had no choice but to pay up.

      Bottom line is since that time I always dev on my server and only transfer once payment is received.
  • Re: What would YOU do?

    Posted 15 years 2 months ago
    • First off you do have a contract that extends beyond verbal. Emails and voice mails. Your verbal contract carries weight too. Don't forget that.

      Next, the most important thing to ask is "What would Wingman do?" :P

      Yes, that sounds cheesy and there is humor meant behind it, but as people have learned in the past - I am the last person to cross.

      The weight of taking legal action puts some burden on you...so, let's explore this for a moment.

      Has he caused you under trauma threatening you? Has he left me you with emotional distress? Has he compromised your sense of well being by threatening you?

      Did what turned into a simple fair agreement, turn into a nightmare of undue duress?

      You have to look at it from all sides.

      Next, this is important. At times like this - you don't handle things alone. That is the biggest mistake some people make - they forget they have rights, because they emotional or traumatized by the matters that transpired.

      Put it this way - I have had plenty of friends get jilted or abused and upon finding out - I found out all the details, then went to the individual and had a nice polite talk with them about it. No, threats, just simple actions that I will be taking along with others on behave of my friend. In other words, to a person who is used to jilting someone and getting away with it....they don't care because - they know they can and it is just one person, but they crap their pants when they see that it is now being handled by other people - because then it is out of their control and becomes the unknown (How many others?, What are actions are they going to take? etc.)

      I never threaten or become violent, I simply explain the circumstances and the actions that I and others are forced to take, e.g. media campaign, a public protest, hence, him being a public figure - I can think of lot's of things to do, but I let him know - this will not end in good press, and that if he jilted me - I will make a site that others can come and share how they were jilted then we will all work together to take legal action. I can pretty much guaranty he has jilted others, that it would damage his career in economic times like this that this "individual" is breaking the backs and stealing from good hard working Americans.

      This is me talking - Nothing would be finer than to serve him a notice, of not only damages from not paying but the emotional distress, while he is in the public eye...then make a all the emails and threats available to the press, if that is what he forces me to do. I am very good at arranging things.

      If you have someone that you can turn to act as a middle man, then I would start their, but while that is going on - simply collect everything in a nice organized manner, and make it available for cool headed friends to look at and come up with a plan.

      Note: Don't let it become an obsession or continue to effect you. Decide your plan of action then let it take it's course and insure you have friends or people who will watch your back.

      Again, I can't say exactly what path I would take, as I would have to have all the details, but I would defiantly resist all knee kick reactions and keep a cool head to how I would approach it.

      Anyhoo Peace Out and if you need any more help let me know.

      Wingman
    • "You can learn a lot from a dummy. So, pay attention to yourself." Quote by me.
  • Re: What would YOU do?

    Posted 15 years 2 months ago
    • We should start the "Jilted Website Designer Association" - we work together to take actions against bad clients. :twisted:
    • "You can learn a lot from a dummy. So, pay attention to yourself." Quote by me.
  • Re: What would YOU do?

    Posted 15 years 2 months ago
    • I am a firm believer in Karma, and sometimes, it comes back to bite people.

      This is the only instance in YEARS where I worked on a website that I didn't host. Heck, I didn't even have FTP or CPanel access. I have no means of guerrilla warfare at all, not that I would stoop to that level at all. If I had hosted it, I could have suspended the account at least!

      A smear campaign ... errrrr ... telling the public is more my speed.

      Either way, a very big lesson was learned by me. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
  • Re: What would YOU do?

    Posted 15 years 2 months ago
    • By the way, thank you all for the advice. :P

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