Yootheme touting faster templates than RT....
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- Andy Miller
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I don't think they were beating down RocketTheme in particular, they had a bunch of other templates in their chart. Well as this was brought up in these forums, I thought I would do a quick informal test using the Frontpage of Yootheme's template in question, "Beyond" and our latest "HiveMind" template. This is a test done from my home to the demo server of each. I don't know where yootheme's demo server is but ours is in St. Louis, Missouri, and I'm sitting in Golden, Colorado with a 8mb cable modem. I used Safari3's network inspector which provides a pretty good feel of how a modern browser interacts with a site.
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This image shows what the browser does when you 'go back' to the homepage. you notice all the images are cached, but because the css and the js files are now php (because of the gzipping), they are not cached, and must be re-downloaded on every page request. You can see how this affects the page load time.
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As you can see HiveMind loads MUCH faster, the overall payload is less even though we have a header rotator that has 3 very large files. This could partly be due to our server, who knows, this is just a real-world example of two sites.
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Ah, look there, when going back to the homepage of HiveMind, safari only had to reload a single index.php file! All the js and css was cached. I rest my case
- Last Edit: 17 years 3 months ago by Andy Miller.
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- GollumX
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- damo
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not entirely. there is a lesson to be learnt here ..
if you're ever talking about a competitor always talk positively - www.c3p0.se - sweden
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- rudolph
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Andy Miller wrote:
I don't think they were beating down RocketTheme in particular, they had a bunch of other templates in their chart. Well as this was brought up in these forums, I thought I would do a quick informal test using the Frontpage of Yootheme's template in question, "Beyond" and our latest "HiveMind" template. This is a test done from my home to the demo server of each. I don't know where yootheme's demo server is but ours is in St. Louis, Missouri, and I'm sitting in Golden, Colorado with a 8mb cable modem. I used Safari3's network inspector which provides a pretty good feel of how a modern browser interacts with a site.
YooTheme - Beyond
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This image shows what the browser does when you 'go back' to the homepage. you notice all the images are cached, but because the css and the js files are now php (because of the gzipping), they are not cached, and must be re-downloaded on every page request. You can see how this affects the page load time.
RocketTheme - HiveMind
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As you can see HiveMind loads MUCH faster, the overall payload is less even though we have a header rotator that has 3 very large files. This could partly be due to our server, who knows, this is just a real-world example of two sites.
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Ah, look there, when going back to the homepage of HiveMind, safari only had to reload a single index.php file! All the js and css was cached. I rest my case
I would have to say you created hive mind... to compete and show this test.......when did they publish that quote....??? - I am in shape.....
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- rudolph
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....my point is i feel you back tracked on advancement.... to play their game
but i would like to see a what you stack up to their latest feb release compared to your feb release.... not a random...
....this would be a little fairer then what both of you have done so far....
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- Andy Miller
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Laugh, HiveMind has been in development for several weeks. I was informed about this Yootheme information just yesterday. We certainly didn't go out of our way to do something special to refute any findings. I was just using the latest template we released with the latest template they had released.
The point was that gzipping css/js files don't necessarily increase performance. You can get exactly the same results with any other template. Feel free to do your own research and draw your own conclusions.
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- GollumX
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On a similar note...
I still haven't gotten over JA releasing ja_larix a few months ago with a whopping 190KB of mootools js LOL. I notified them of the mistake and I'm not sure if they've fixed up the packaged templates... but the js on their demo site remains uncompressed :
template.joomlart.com/ja_larix/templates...pts/mootools.v1.1.js - Say no to Internet Explorer 6.
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- Mack
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Every club has its pros and cons, light templates, heavy templates, etc. Every month someone comes up with a new widget, gadget, and a wow toy. I did think it was poor form for YT to make a public comparison.
People make choices based on total value. I just re-upped for another year here because for me it's worth it. I let another one expire last month because it wasn't.
(So now y'all have to tolerate my wise arse for another year.)
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- GollumX
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Spot on, Mack.
Cheers for renewing
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It's like the old expression - "nobody kicks a dead dog". Rockettheme is responsive to it's subscribers...not other companies. To me that is excellence.
So, here goes... : forget Yooouey whatever - how about having a contest for the most creative request for a template that a template will be made off of the winning request? Which, brings two things to the table -
1 - How creative and sharing our the Rocketteers?
2 - Is Team Rocket up for the challenge?
Note: It could be a long term side project... ;D - Last Edit: 17 years 3 months ago by The Wingman.
- "You can learn a lot from a dummy. So, pay attention to yourself." Quote by me.
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