How do you (re)develop an exisiting live site?
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- David York
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In light of
my recent struggle
to attempt to redevelop my existing social gaming website I am left wondering how everyone does this. Do you copy the site and database to a local system, develop and then upload the finished product? Or, do you make a copy on the live server and develop there and simply rename folders and database to live names when you are done developing?
I very much want to switch to Dimensions but the layout is different enough from V3 that I need to develop offline so as not to interrupt the live site. I appreciate any any advice you could share.
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- Joe K
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David,
I have a VPS so I can create a hosting account, build the site online, and then when ready point the domain at it.
I think what would be easier for you would be to build your site online and in the same hosting account you intend to use. Except inside another folder like you said. That way all you would have to do is move the contents of one folder into another and update the configuration.php. You would not have to move the database at all. - Last Edit: 17 years 1 week ago by Joe K.
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- David York
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- Can I make a copy of the Joomla! directory/files on the host yet make it use the same database as the live site? If I could do that then things become much simpler. Is there any settings that need to changed in the J! files to do it this way?
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- Joe K
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Hey David,
I am not sure I understood the last question.
Right now you have a live site and you want to update it....not necessarily build a new one correct? however, you want to make updates away from the live site itself?
You can make a copy of your live site on your host and recreate the database...but I wouldn't use the same database for both.
Please straighten me out if I am lost.....cause right now all I see is tall trees ;D
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- David York
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Sorry for being vague. That's what happens when I do too many things at once.
Joe, you are correct in your understanding that I was asking if I could share the live database with the live site and the development site.
So, if that's not the case then I will make a copy of the database and the Joomla! directory and develop from there. That leads to my next question of when the development site is done how I make the development site's database is up to date with the live database info?
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- Joe K
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how I make the development site's database is up to date with the live database info?
Hmm, there are people here much smarter than me that might have an idea, but the thought that first came to me is, I don't know. ???
What all do you have going on with this site:
New users each day? Forum Posts? If there is a lot of this activity each day than it seems like it might be tough. - Last Edit: 17 years 1 week ago by Joe K.
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- James Spencer
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Sharing databases is not really a good idea as you do not want to start damaging your live site do you
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- Robert D. Wagers
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simple...
Copy complete joomla install to your local computer (meaning all files)...
Install wamp or xamp to edit loacally...
goto your webhosts DB manager and export all tables to your local computer.
Then import your sql file into a new DB.
If you want to modify it online, just create a sub-folder (/rework or whatever) then unload the entire site you just downloaded to the sub-folder and create a new DB to use. Change the config.php to reflect and you are in business. - "Everyone has to get knocked-down every once-in-a-while, otherwise you'll never learn how to get-back-up!
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- David York
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Robert D. Wagers wrote:
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If you want to modify it online, just create a sub-folder (/rework or whatever) then unload the entire site you just downloaded to the sub-folder and create a new DB to use. Change the config.php to reflect and you are in business.
I understand everything up to the point that I am ready to turn the /rework site into the /live site. When I finish the /rework site the database won't have the latest database info as the /live site would. How do I resolve this? For example, the website has Fireboard forum which holds all of the forum posts, members, etc in the database?
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- Robert D. Wagers
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ok... once you have modified it to your liking..
1- download all files to your local computer again.
2- export all tables from the modified SQL DB
3- Then goto your live-site DB and backup.
4- Once you have a valid backup file, then drop all tables.
5- Then import the modified DB's export-file. Your new tables should appear.
6- Then upload by overwriting all the existing joomla files.
7- Then adjust your configuration.php file to reflect the old db_name.
wage - "Everyone has to get knocked-down every once-in-a-while, otherwise you'll never learn how to get-back-up!
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