Ninjaboard replacing phpBB3
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- Steve Beck
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I think a lot of people are having issues with the whole Joomla roadmap right now, and for RT members who want a serious long term forum solution, the problems just seem to keep compounding due to future bridging issues.
I have a new site which is in development which needs a forum as a main component, and I've been lost with this for a long time, which has since led to the suspension of development.
The main problem is not just integration with Joomla, but also knowing that software developers can go under, and when you have a site which is running a forum, this leads to problems with conversion.
Basically, if your forum software provider goes down, and other forum providers don't provide conversion software... well your'e up the proverbial creek without a paddle.
What I discovered with my own research was that each of the forum solutions I looked at, lacked such conversion, and as such lacked security for the future of any such site which does build a popular forum.
I don't know what the solution is here, but there sure is a massive market opening right now for someone to bring Joomla and Forums together. For now, I don't know what that is... - Lawn Mowing Perth | Lawn Care Tips
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- Steve Beck
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Which brings another question to mind.
Will RT be supporting PHPBB templates into the future? - Lawn Mowing Perth | Lawn Care Tips
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- Jeremy Lewis
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Why is it that developers are blind to what customers can clearly see? Is it poor development or lack of support for Joomla?
Is it that developers have the skills necessary to code...but lack the wisdom and foresight to see the features needed?
It's highly frustrating to be so dependent upon those who just "don't get it".
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- Joe Halleck
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- Cretan Studies Association
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Stian Didriksen wrote:
The article says that RT is currently using phpBB3, but are sponsoring us to shape up Ninjaboard so it meets the requirements for a community like this one.I've installed Ninjaboard a couple of times to test it, and it looks really good...I was quite amazed by how well the template-blending feature works...the more difficult the template might seemingly make that blending of Ninjaboard and Joomla, the better the results, the better the matching is...
Ninjaboard already have a Kunena converter (you find it under Administrator -> Ninjaboard -> Tools, note: Kunena button wont be visible if Kunena isn't installed).
So you can safely use Kunena and switch to Ninjaboard later should you want to.
The only thing you can't do, is start with Ninjaboard and later switch to Kunena as easily. Only solution I'm aware of is this one: www.joomace.net/joomla-extensions/kunena-converters
So since Kunena is more mature, I do recommend that people that need features Kunena got but we don't, use Kunena until we do instead of switching to Ninjaboard and wait.
Or you could use phpBB3, SMF 1.1 or Agora, we support those too.
Oh and while we don't have full 1.6 compatibility yet, but we only got two bugs left to solve.
One is that we are on MooTools 1.2 in our backend, and some of our js needs the 1.1 compat layer to work, as we try to support Joomla 1.5 wether you got the mtupgrade plugin enabled or not.
Second is the changed ACL in 1.6 that changes the way users are assigned to groups. In 1.5 each user is assigned to a single group, but in 1.6 you got multiple, so we haven't worked out how to solve that yet.
In Ninjaboard 1.2 we'll drop support for MooTools 1.1, and require you to use mtupgrade or similar, so that's when we'll work on 1.6 support once more.
As for rockettheme integration, if you mean by templates, then that's already supported as seen on our demo: ninjaforge.com/demo/ninjaboard/ninjaboar...emo&id=5&format=html
One of my favorites are Crystalline: ninjaforge.com/demo/ninjaboard/crystalline/forums
Regarding the sponsor we'll do an official announcement on our site this week with some more information on what this means for you as the user, and perhaps what features that'll come in June thanks to the sponsorship
Cheers!
I wasn't able to use it, however, because there is no support for Unicode for aliases etc...e.g. when creating a new thread with a Greek title, I would end up with a series of dashes in the URL...
Because of that drawback, I'm using Kunena right now (which it took me a while to customize it to my liking)...I hope UTF support is added in the future... - You can call me George
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- Stian Didriksen
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Ewoud Vreugdenhil wrote:
Do you have any idea when you will start working on integrating JomSocial?
It's on our roadmap to do that, but right now sponsored features take priority so when we'll do that is anyones guess.
But we will provide the architecture for integrating social extensions by ninjaboard plugins, so it's likely that once we have that in (which is scheduled for 1.3) then someone in our community will contribute one as it's in demand.
Cretan Studies Association wrote:I've installed Ninjaboard a couple of times to test it, and it looks really good...I was quite amazed by how well the template-blending feature works...the more difficult the template might seemingly make that blending of Ninjaboard and Joomla, the better the results, the better the matching is...
The more the template got to offer, the more we can reuse
The hardest templates to blend in with are those that either got little to none module styling (or module styling that is meant for modules with background images that are not wide enough to wrap a forum) or that got CSS that targets module positions ids (so that html markup used outside a module position don't get the styling applied because of the hardcoding).
Cretan Studies Association wrote:I wasn't able to use it, however, because there is no support for Unicode for aliases etc...e.g. when creating a new thread with a Greek title, I would end up with a series of dashes in the URL...
Because of that drawback, I'm using Kunena right now (which it took me a while to customize it to my liking)...I hope UTF support is added in the future...
I feel you, JoomlaWorks sponsored support for that in 1.1. It's already landed, and you can try it in the latest beta of 1.1 found here: http://ninjaforge.com/extensions/ninjaboard-beta
We implemented it by using the iconv transliterate function in PHP, which is enabled by default in PHP5.
However, this api does not support greek characters, so JoomlaWorks donated the same UTF8 slugify behavior that K2 use, so that Ninjaboard have the same support.
Here's a live demo of it: http://ninjaforge.com/demo/ninjaboard/maelstrom/general/i-dont-have-any-or-and-i-cant-speak-ellhnika
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Stian Didriksen wrote:
I feel you, JoomlaWorks sponsored support for that in 1.1. It's already landed, and you can try it in the latest beta of 1.1 found here: http://ninjaforge.com/extensions/ninjaboard-betaThat's good to know! So greek characters/words are transliterated into "greeklish", right?
We implemented it by using the iconv transliterate function in PHP, which is enabled by default in PHP5.
However, this api does not support greek characters, so JoomlaWorks donated the same UTF8 slugify behavior that K2 use, so that Ninjaboard have the same support.
Here's a live demo of it: http://ninjaforge.com/demo/ninjaboard/maelstrom/general/i-dont-have-any-or-and-i-cant-speak-ellhnika
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That's not ideal, but it is a reasonable solution...in fact, greek characters in the URL is not ideal either, because of the way those links are read by many applications and the issues that come up when using links containing greek...one often ends up with a long series of weird characters and symbols...
I'm using a plugin, ITSocialButtons, that integrates URL-shortening services, so I've bypassed this issue to some degree in Joomla and Kunena...as far as social sharing is concerned, at least...
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- jtoppin
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I'm carefully watching this project. Tired of bridge solutions. I'm looking to develop a website later this year and would love a solution that is integrated into Joomla and allows me to use the Nebulae template. There are user profile features I think that are missing from this so far. (One question: Where does it pull my user profile picture from? I didn't upload one and it automatically put one in on your demo site, which is kind of eery?)
Also, is there a plan in your roadmap to include an information system? Who is online, newest registered users, stats? Something like this at the bottom www.animosity-guild.net/forum.php ; obviously that is vbulletin heavily modified, but you get the idea.
On top of all that, is there a way to integrate a shadowbox, etc viewer into the forum?
Perhaps last but not least, do you have a roadmap that is publicly available? I'm not looking to develop until September most likely, but a light roadmap of features would be nice.
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- Stian Didriksen
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@User profile features, yeah that's one of the things that haven't been a priority yet, but is coming later on.
The user profile is pulled from gravatar if you have that, you can delete it if you want by editing your profile and clicking "Delete this image" and then hit save.
There is a light roadmap (if you can call tickets and milestones that), but it's not public, and it's more of a guideline than a real roadmap as we change our priorities depending on the needs of our users.
Information system is requested yep, and will likely be implemented as a module since it's clean forums normally don't need or use (and our primary focus/vision is to be as simple and clean as possible out of the box, while allowing you to customize everything just the way you want).
Shadowbox is already supported, you simply install something like the RokBox plugin, then it should pick up image attachments out of the box. More advanced popover functionalities like post previews and the like is planned.
If you plan on developing in September, then it's a wise decision to keep an eye on Ninjaboard as we'll add a lot of features I'm sure you'll find interesting during that time
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- Bob Ateah
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I'm using Kunena now, even with the couple of drawbacks that it has.
Main drawback, no private forums. There is a way around this, depending on which community software that you use but it isn't ideal. Some users complain about not being able to use animated avatars in Kunena also.
I like that Kunena can be hacked to integrate with JomSocial (Profiles and activity stream). Now if I could only integrate Kunena with the JomSocial points system. (tried a couple different hacks but no joy).
I'm keeping an eye on Ninja Board.
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