Has the GPL announcement affected you as a Webmaster?
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- Mack
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Daniel Chapman wrote:
Otherwise all our GPL woes would be solved by not selling extensions but by charging $xx for 'installation' (if you need it or not) of a component that fell out of the sky.
Oh hell no.
With some people, once you touch anything on the site you own it. Every problem they have, related or not, is your fault and you end up having to own support on that site forever.
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- zigzag
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Even if there is no bridge, what is to stop people from using SMF or any board on the same website as a Joomla install.It affects me on several sites using Joomla where I've bridged with SMf and am using several commercial components that require logins.
I mean how many people posting on the forums need registered access to the site itself?
My current feeling is that Joomla is no longer viable or useful for anything other than very small personal sites, in fact the whole way it's going at present leaves me stuck with either staying with 1.12 or forking out tons of cash which I don't have to convert everything over to another system. :-\
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- James Spencer
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Everything really depends on what extensions are going to continue being developed. Is there a list somewhere of developers/extensions sticking with Joomla!? I see random posts/blogs but no comprehensive list. That said, had not really been looking
- James Spencer / Developer & Support / Hull, UK
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- GollumX
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zigzag wrote:
Even if there is no bridge, what is to stop people from using SMF or any board on the same website as a Joomla install.It affects me on several sites using Joomla where I've bridged with SMf and am using several commercial components that require logins.
I mean how many people posting on the forums need registered access to the site itself?
My current feeling is that Joomla is no longer viable or useful for anything other than very small personal sites, in fact the whole way it's going at present leaves me stuck with either staying with 1.12 or forking out tons of cash which I don't have to convert everything over to another system. :-\
yup... only small sites, both business and personal.... and with those we'd might as well go html/css or a lighter CMS like websitebaker - Say no to Internet Explorer 6.
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I will be running our national portal on it. Using GPL approved extensions.
So unless you consider a multi million dollar company doing business in PR, US, and Canada a small business then that would not be a true statement.
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- GollumX
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timothy jones wrote:
I will be running our national portal on it. Using GPL approved extensions.ok. what forum will you be running? what extensions? i'd love to know what you use to put the site together. will these GPL extensions work fine out of the box or will you have to modify them for your site?
So unless you consider a multi million dollar company doing business in PR, US, and Canada a small business then that would not be a true statement.
would your work have been easier were it not for the current joomla stance on non-gpl extensions? - Say no to Internet Explorer 6.
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Fireboard Forum, Facile Forms, Others but all are GPL, I added Ijoomla magazine (great product) but found it over kill
Nope no modifying they work just fine.
That is what I think is crazy about this debate, Commercial extensions are great, but not absoulutely necessary.
Look at forms for example. There is nothing against Phils Product I bought it. But I dont use it because there are far better ones that are GPL in my opinion.
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- AzzX
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The posts on Joomla and smf have pretty much made it clear: Joomla have made their final stance on their interpretation of the gpl v2 and acknowledged that gpl2 is not compatible with v1 or v3 and is subject to the same terms and conditions that any other non gpl2 license has in its ability to link/merge/bridge with Joomla.
This leaves us with pretty much only with phpbb as the most advanced forum to integrate with Joomla - fair enough, its a really good forum script. Fireboard is getting there - maybe a bit more time. their license seems to have gone MIA at the mo though. Mybb was another forum I was thinking about, but alas, does not share the same license.... the fact that it is free is irrelevant.
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- Andy Miller
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- There is some confusion and misunderstanding regarding the whole smf/joomla thing. We are actually in discussions with smf now to clarify them. However, I think a GPL forum like phpbb3 is the way to go anyway as SMF's license is a little out of the ordinary (politely put). Look for RTv2 to run on phpbb3 with new j!1.5 based bridge rocketwerx has in development.
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- GollumX
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This scares me. At least 90% of all hacking stories I've ever read involved phpBB in some way or another. It's so bad I think I've developed a phobia for phpBB.
- Say no to Internet Explorer 6.
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