Kunena vs PHPbb
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- faisool
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i hope they dont lose interests after a while .. cus fireboard was a success fork of joomlaboard .. and suddenly they seem to stop caring .. now we have Kunena which is a fork of fireboard ..
they need to really work hard on it to make it the best forum for joomla .. cus till now its not good for busy sites .. and to be honest it cant be compared to Phpbb3 at all ( and thats normal) .. but if the guys keep up the good work, im sure it will be the FORUM for joomla
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- Penn Wooding
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I have kunena on several of my sites at the moment. My Oscar Fish website gets the most traffic, not normally many more than 10 people at one go but we are a niche market.
General consensus suggests that phpBB is far superior to kunena. For what reasons? I know that phpbb doesn't throw up as many queries so runs faster. Having said that, I installed a rocket theme template and phpbb via the RokBridge online other domain. Now I'd be the first person to say that dream host is pretty crap and slow (you wouldn't think so since I'm paying for a private server) anyway, the phpBB forum doesn't load much quicker than my Kunena forum, and it's virtually empty. Check it out for yourself.
Sorry, back to what I was saying. I've been running OscarFishlover.com since December 2006 and we have just over 2500 members now. Based on my experience, most people want it nice and simple, something they can understand. Believe me, a lot of my members have had to ask me how to use the forum which is why I put a tutorial on my site. So it's all very well having an all singing and dancing website, but if people don't know how to use it and they will go elsewhere.
If they can get Kunena running just as fast as phpBB, in my eyes it's just as good. You might want to argue that there are many more themes available for phpBB which is a perfectly valid point.
www.oscarfishlover.co.uk/
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- faisool
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u have a point .. i admit that kunena or fireboard are simple specially for users who are not familiar with forums ( and they are alot ) forget about templates .. a template is the last thing i think of ..
polls are not supported in kunena ..
private forums
Maximum of attachment is 1
as we agreed its much slower
not as stable as phpbb3 and thats what concerns me the most ..
but still its good .. but to me there is better ..
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- Penn Wooding
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Never even heard of a private forum, I assume it's a forum that you can allocate to just moderators if you wish?
A poll is something that would be very welcome. Okay you can add one to your actual website but it's not quite the same as having it on a specific threat. I'm sure that that is somewhere on the list.
The one thing that I much prefer over phpBB is integrating Kunena within a Joomla website gives you the opportunity to optimise a website so much more than a phpBB forum. You may only want the forum on its own but from my experience you climb the search engines a lot more than a phpBB forum because even with an extra couple of pages you can take advantage of SEO. If you add a huge long website heading on a phpbb forum, there's no room for the heading on the posts.
Of coarse if you've got very high page ranking that's a different ball game altogether. But there are not a lot of hobby type forums with very high page ranking.
I know I sound like I'm bragging but from 1998 to the middle of 2007, oscarfish.com was number one on Google for "oscar fish". Not for the last two years they haven't been, I am. And I put that down to much more flexibility with meta headings on a Joomla website.
Just add something regarding Kunena, I think they have designed their software extremely well. We phpBB you always have your website heading first, with Kunena, your post headings come first so if someone puts something quite long, it's all going to appear on the search engines, rather than being cut off if your website is quite long. I really like that, PHPBB should take a leaf out of their book - http://www.Oscarfishlover.com - the website for great Oscar Fish advice and help
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- Penn Wooding
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I thought I'd better mention that I've got experience with phpBB forums, I have been running the Torbay community forum since 2006. You can see it's fairly long title, not much room for many keywords on each post. Just a shame not more people use it, it could be a great asset for our local community.
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- Gideon Newell
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Just stumbled on to this thread while doing a Google search on Kunena vs. phpBB...
I wanted to ask you Penn, what brought you back to Kunena for your OscarFishLover.com forum over phpBB? Did you find that as the Kunena product matured that it met or exceeded phpBB? I'm experienced with Joomla, but have never set up a forum before and I'm trying to decide on the right software. If any of you were revisiting this question again today, what would be your choice of software? Thanks!
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- Penn Wooding
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Hi there Gideon. I have never used anything but kunena for Oscarfishlover.com. The first forum I ever setup was Torbaycommunityforum.org using PHPBB and that was back in 2006. I then stumble across Joomla! and with it Joomlaboard with became Fire Board & then Kunena.
If you are looking for a forum that will integrate really well into Joomla! and enable you to build your website around your forum so they totally belong together then Kunena is definitely a top contender in my opinion. You may also want to look at Agora, that is also a forum component that installs within Joomla! and is extremely easy to set up.
PHPBB has always been a stand-alone forum and was here long before Joomla!. Whereas it can be made to integrate quite nicely into Joomla!, it takes a little bit more work and knowledge to get it right. If I was you, I would compare PHPBB to Kunena, look at the pros and cons . You may find that PHPBB has more functions at the moment then Kunena and would be your preferred choice. If so, using some of the facilities available on this website, you can hook Joomla! and PHPbb up together so they will work. But it won't be like Kunena where you just install it and they both matchup perfectly.
It seems to me that Kunena are really working on developing some software that will enable people to set up a forum within a website really easily. Obviously if you don't need a website and you just want a forum then Kunena probably isn't a suitable choice. But my forum is just part of my website so it's worked out really well for me. - http://www.Oscarfishlover.com - the website for great Oscar Fish advice and help
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- Roeland_A!
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For me personally it would be phpbb3. Since there are other more important matters; server load; if Kunena can perform like phpbb3 in the sense of performance, then it would be a good alternative. phpbb3 has been around so long and has gone through so many developmental stages that it is mature. It furthermore has a much larger support group then kunena as sole joomla forum software can ever muster. That's my 2 cents
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- Roeland_A!
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- Gideon Newell
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- Thanks Penn, Roeland! The problem I'm having in my decision-making is that the Kunena web site seems to have no comprehensive "Features List" page. Unlike other systems like phpBB or vBulletin, Kunena doesn't seem to have any "Feature List" page on the website so I can quickly see what features it has. The general evaluation that I keep hearing is that it isn't as fully-featured or fast as those other two systems, but that it integrates much easier with Joomla. That sounds great to me, but I'd like to see a feature list for myself though so I could see if there were any mission-critical features that I would miss by opting for Kunena. Have I overlooked such a page somewhere? Thanks!
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