RocketTheme focusing on Joomla! 1.5 in 2009
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I just wanted to follow up on a couple of points:The sooner everyone starts moving on to 1.5 the better. Hanging on to legacy software is just a bad decision.
We don't all have much of a choice. There are still many componants out there that simply do not work on 1.5 and it is just not feasible to loose that functionality on a live site. This is precisely the situation we are in, we'd love to upgrade, but a key extension is simply not compatable in any way. It's not always a simple decision.
Andy,
Are you saying that by developing templates for Joomla 1.0, you are crimping the features you want to develop for Joomla 1.5 templates?
So, my pro membership, which is solely for Joomla 1.5 templates -- because there's no way I'm going to install Joomla 1.0 for my clients -- is not getting full value?
Or, put another way, I am subsidizing Joomla 1.0 template development?
I want full throttle Joomla 1.5 templates, no holding back! Would you consider adding a couple of months to my just renewed pro membership to compensate me for the partial-featured Joomla 1.5 templates I'm getting?
I look to you to be on the forefront of Joomla. You have to lead, not follow!
Of course, you may lose site memberships to the Joomla 1.0 crowd.
It's harder to guage how many memberships you are losing because you lack 1.5 features others see elsewhere.
Consider the existence of this post, that you felt compelled to ask us, as your cue to do what you know you must do.
Consider my irritation of knowing I'm not getting fully featured 1.5 templates as my cue to you that you must develop fully featured 1.5 templates!
Create Joomla 1.5 templates. That's what I want. That's what i expect. I want fully featured Joomla 1.5 templates!
Also, every month you delay is a month of experience lost learning the finer details of Joomla 1.5 templates. Those granular details that you can learn only by doing. You need this learning in order to push Joomla further.
-Bob
This is really quite unbelievable, most of my rebuttals have already been covered, but did it occur to you that while you feel you are subsidising 1.0 development, there are likely to be members who paid 1-2 months ago expecting to have 12 new templates for their 1.0 install(s) who now will only have a few? Your Pro membership is exactly the same membership now as it was when you bought it. RT have not reduced the value of this at all.
For those who want to hang on to 1.0, every template from the clubs inception until now or even 'till the end of the year is 1.0 compatible... IMHO, more than enough to choose from if you really needed to stick with 1.0.
This may be quite true however it is not necessarily the basis on which people purchased their memberships.
However, this is obviously completely a decision that only RT can make. Persoanlly at the moment I am stuck with 1.0 so it will be a shame to loose such a great resource as RT as the templates are so great I redesign every few months with a new one. They are too irresistible
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- The Wingman
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Quincy Follweiler wrote:
I know this may be a dumb question so I appreciate your patience in advance.
Like they say - there is no such thing as a stupid questions, but what they fail to mentions - is there are lots of dumb answers.
This news makes me a little nervous but, I've been thinking about jumping to 1.5 but I was not sure if all the great components that are out there would work with the New 1.5 .
Do the majority of the components and modules work with 1.5? Jcal, Docman, Seyret Video, Podcast, Fireboard Forums, Datso Gallery and others.
The easiest way to find out is go to joomla extensions search for each one and find out, (also, hit favorite for each one - then you can always find them a little faster next time
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On a personal note - I was hesitant to jump to 1.5, but when I did - best thing I ever did.
. - "You can learn a lot from a dummy. So, pay attention to yourself." Quote by me.
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- MewDragon
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- I think that given the inherent advantages in 1.5, that RocketTheme is taking an excellent step in focusing on 1.5 starting in 09. Someone mentioned that this would also mean they'd be able to focus on phpbb templates too, which sounds like an equally amazing reason that this is an excellent change. ^^
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- John Wood
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Hi All,
Could not agree more with you Andy,
With 1.6 just around the corner and support for 1.0.x probably dropping off mid 2009 then why would you want to build 3 versions of the same template something has to give
thats my 2c worth
cheers - Cheers
JW
P.S. invest some time in learning the advantages of FireBug
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- saygak
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Quincy Follweiler wrote:
I know this may be a dumb question so I appreciate your patience in advance.
This news makes me a little nervous but, I've been thinking about jumping to 1.5 but I was not sure if all the great components that are out there would work with the New 1.5 .
Do the majority of the components and modules work with 1.5? Jcal, Docman, Seyret Video, Podcast, Fireboard Forums, Datso Gallery and others.
Thank you
The only reason I'm still using J! 1.0 is missing component for 1.5. As far as I'm concerned, Seyret Video and Datso Gallery, JComments and some others don't support J!1.5.
I can't find any good gallery for 1.5 instead of Datso. A new gallery "True Gallery" is about to come, but it is also for 1.0.
Of course there will be versions of this components for J! 1.5 (or even 1.6), but later in spring-summer 2009. It's more preferable to keep publishing new templates for joomla 1.0 till end of the spring 2009.
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- William Rilenge
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Personally, I would prefer you continue with 1.0 templates. Our small business uses Joomla 1.0 only and we didn't like how 1.5 operated.
But, hey, that's just me.
I'm sure there are plenty of good reasons to switch to 1.5, but we just didn't like our experience with it - Gap Tech Solutions
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- Man Hung Ng
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Well, I think the resources should focus on J! 1.5, which can improve much more quality of J! 1.5 work.
After all, the fact is J! 1.0 template is fading out with users, and I see nearly all extensions support J! 1.5 (either legacy or native).
If you use J! 1.0 just because of several small J! 1.0 extensions, then your logic is wrong, there are still other extensions/alternatives to work with. Don't let such small extensions affect what you view as the whole Joomla! project ok? >
This is such a thought of giving up eating for fear of choking...
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- Jean-Marcos DCruz Faliak
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I understand the great need to isolate the focus on the latest platform.
Do it and not look back on this is my thoughts too.
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- Quincy Follweiler
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Well after much thought and review of these posts I decided to try 1.5 with a brand new client thinking it would be better for them in the long run. However after installing 1.5 and trying to learn my way around the new administration I realized that I needed much more time to learn 1.5.
Some things are the same but there are a lot of differences and that really slowed my progress down. Not to mention that even some of the components that say they are 1.5 are buggy and some did not work at all. Then you go read about the problems and there are all of these manual code fixes that have to be done before they work correctly. I build sites for churches and they require a lot of functionality. All of that to say that I decided to go back to 1.0 while I take my time to learn 1.5 and how it works.
Hopefully with the death of 1.0 at hand there will be enough motivation by 3rd party developers to make their components work well with 1.5 .
Thanks for all the advice! - The "S" Stands for Hope
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- prim
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"Not to mention that even some of the components that say they are 1.5 are buggy and some did not work at all."
Make sure they are 1.5 Native and not Legacy
Sure, there could be bugs in native versions aswell but i think the risk is lower than with legacy versions... - Please reply with a direct link to the issue & create a new thread for each new issue.
A template is only as good as the content that goes into it - DanG
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