FlexiContent vs K2
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- :arrowu: Does that mean the Jan template will have FLEXIcontent :cheesy:
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Andy Miller wrote:
Emmanuel Danan wrote:Andy, do you also see any collabs with K2?It would be great
And I would be glad to provide my help (if needed).
Emmanuel.
PS: I'm the lead developer from FLEXIcontent
Welcome! I've been impressed with what i've seen with FLEXIcontent so far, we are considering supporting it in the future so please keep us in your development loop.
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Thanks Andy,
That's great just to hear you think about it.
I'm finishing a blog post explaining a little bit more about where we come from and where we wish to go with this project.
It will be published tomorrow.
Btw I've nearly finished the generic content module that allows to do fast everything. It will just need a javascript pyrotechnic layer. (but I definatelly too bad JS dev for that - I'll let the experts do and just enjoy the result)
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We are not fighting against anybody, there are many competitive products in that field and we are just proud to be listed in. K2 is an excellent product and I could probably use it myself for a customer that wish to build a 100.000 articles news portal, but I've no customer like that at the moment
I won't present here the global strengh and weaknesses of each solution (because I don't think it's the place) but just one thing that FLEXIcontent has offered to their users that NOBODY in the Joomlasphere has done before: the FREEDOM.
With FLEXIcontent, you can have a real test (forget the CCK aspects) as an advanced content manager. If you decide to stop using it, you CAN!!!
You can even switch to K2 if you like
All your datas are saved in the standard Joomla Article manager and you don't have everything to rebuild. This feature may seem stupid on a developer point of view, but for a website builder, in an environement that moves very fast, you cannot know how tomorrow will be...
The last thing I wish to say here is that FLEXIcontent IS and WILL remain a FREE GPL product.
Thanks a million for your post and hope to see one day an awesome Rockettheme template for FLEXIcontent.
Cheers,
Emmanuel. - FLEXIcontent
http://www.flexicontent.org
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http://www.joomla.fr co-administrator.
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Hey Emmanuel,
Any Demonstration available for Flexicontent. I have used K2 as well as ZOO. Both are good for me. I would like to see a demonstration of this by yourself. Maybe you can show us how good the product is
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- Emmanuel Danan
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Perhaps here would be the place:
www.joomladay.fr/
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So, looking at this page...
Universal Plugin Support
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Does this mean that we can use RokBox as the image handler within FlexiContent?
Thanks a ton for going about this CCK in generous way you are. Being able to "backstep" if you change your mind puts a ton of peace-of-mind in our sites.
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Ben Lee wrote:
So, looking at this page... Universal Plugin Support ...Definitely YES, I cannot live without that box myself
Does this mean that we can use RokBox as the image handler within FlexiContent? It’s even integrated in the image field plugin in standard. (like JCE did)
Ben Lee wrote:Thanks a ton for going about this CCK in generous way you are. Being able to "backstep" if you change your mind puts a ton of peace-of-mind in our sites.Don’t misunderstand me, I’m not a happy dreaming penguin (even if I love penguin) but I just want to do business another way. I’m not generous; I just try to be honest and fair. My goal is to provide a free powerful solution to the little guy building the website of his bike club, but I’ll also release much more advanced solutions for professionals (always GPL) but not for free and not for 50$.
Because I think, that open source doesn’t mean “make money with the work of someone else” and thus it’s fair that those who are doing that contributes to let the other having it for free. It can be also time contribution, involvement in development, support in the forum, or whatever useful can be for the project.
Cheers,
Emmanuel. - FLEXIcontent
http://www.flexicontent.org
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http://www.joomla.fr co-administrator.
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- Stian Didriksen
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Emmanuel Danan wrote:
Don’t misunderstand me, I’m not a happy dreaming penguin (even if I love penguin) but I just want to do business another way. I’m not generous; I just try to be honest and fair. My goal is to provide a free powerful solution to the little guy building the website of his bike club, but I’ll also release much more advanced solutions for professionals (always GPL) but not for free and not for 50$.
Because I think, that open source doesn’t mean “make money with the work of someone else” and thus it’s fair that those who are doing that contributes to let the other having it for free. It can be also time contribution, involvement in development, support in the forum, or whatever useful can be for the project.
And that's the heart of GPL. GPL is not about making it possible for others to steal from you, but for developers to learn from one another's code and innovations to make everyones software better.
And about being involved, that's also too true. Contributing is not restricted to code, helping out in any way that's useful for the project are valuable contributions.
If only all people involved with the business of creating joomla related software should think like that
More on topic, regarding what to choose between k2 and flexicontent, it's an easy choice to me.
K2 aimes to solve all your problems, and it seems like the creators of it thinks users shouldn't need any other software than K2. So 3PD integration isn't that important to them, I'm talking about integration with other extensions. As K2 does provide multiple ways for you to plug into it.
Examples proving my point: http://twitter.com/srikanthpanaman/status/6889789255 and the reply from Fotis: http://twitter.com/joomlaworks/status/6899176423
So when given an opportunity to work together with other developers on allowing forums like Kunena tap into the K2 commenting system, JoomlaWorks choose to give k2 forum capabilities instead.
So you wont need Kunena (or any other forum) at all, as K2 will presumably render any other forum useless. That's their theory.
However, if you try to do too many different things at once, you'll most likely end up doing none of them very well.
So K2 is going towards the route of eventually replacing the cms and be everything you could possibly need, so you wont actually need to install anything other than k2.
The problem with that is that there's a way you actually can do everything exceptionally well at once. And that's if you combine forces and work together. This is what FLEXIcontent is a good example of in code, and how Emmanuel's behavior clearly shows is his way of thinking.
FLEXIcontent does not aim to replace Joomla, it's a layer on top of it that just empower it. So any extension you have that pull content from com_content will work. Other extensions improving com_content will continue to work, as again, FLEXIcontent isn't replacing, it's improving. The fact that unlike k2, or ZOO for that matter, FLEXIcontent use the same db tables that com_content use.
FLEXIcontent is made for being pluggable, and are much more 3PD friendly. For example it's ready for developers to use any commenting system with it. You can easily add your own field types using plugins and so on.
So FLEXIcontent will see a much stronger 3PD support in the coming months. And as the main developer on Ninjaboard, I can mention that NB commenting support for FLEXIcontent is a no-brainer
So that's my view on it.
It goes without saying my view is a little biased due to my different relationships with Fotis and Emmanuel, but bias or no bias, give both extensions a very good look and you'll most likely end up using FLEXIcontent
Cheers,
Stian Didriksen
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